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Chiropractors are bullshit

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Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#22
We should invent the name for the aspects that are not bullshit, then. Some of the things they do are objectively helping some people in some cases. Gatekeeping medicine is important, but it can also become just that, gatekeeping

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#23
This article is full of weak proof and elitism. If one is to go back to the 1900s to critize how the practice is formed one must remember the state of medicine. He references this but only to cast a negative light chiropractors by linking them to a time when medicine practices lack the scientific base we have now.

This statement? "Who the hell peddles (real) medicine out of a kiosk"

It is so elitist it out of touch. Most chiropractors are not in mall kiosks.

My eye doctor is located in a mall.

He may be right but this rant didn't address that.

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#24
post #6

Do they even exist outside of north America?

In India, there have been traditionally "bone setters" who literally do just that. Did you fall down the stairs and twisted your arm? Or shoulder or leg? Well they did that.

I saw once at a hospital a kid who had fallen off a bike. There were like 4 men pulling and twisting his pelvis like crazy. I shuddered at the sight. These were actual doctors so yeah.

About the bone setters, they just fixed your twisted limb or foot or something. Over the past many years now they have fallen out of fashion so your nearest bone and joint hospital is where they treat you.

Rest of therapy and stuff is now delegated to physiotherapists.

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#25

Chiropractors frustrate me because they tend to treat symptoms - not root causes. You can get 'adjusted' a million times but if you have a muscle imbalance or perpetual tightness that is pulling something out alignment you will always fall back into that state. For instance, if you sit for hours in the same funny position on your couch every night. Or if you tend to sit on one leg constantly. Or if you sleep in the s…

How are they supposed to treat the root cause being your bed? Come to your house?

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#26
my bff is a chiropractor which made me realize that not all of them are shills. he grew up in athletic training and sports medicine and is adamant that he shouldn't be seeing patients for more than a visit or two to mainly make sure the patient is not ignoring something that needs an ortho surgeon and to teach home rehab exercises for recovery...

but.. i live in chiropractor hell in northern indiana.. the number of chiropractors here are absurd. and one of the things they utilize is a body heat imaging scan to determine if patients have: cancer, colitis, celiac's and a world of other stuff.. that they cant actually detect.. this has raised a generation of women that won't get mammograms because of the evil radiation.

on the other hand, my wife is a breast cancer surgeon and business is good here.

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#27

The historic scientific basis for chiropractors is total BS. The idea that everything stems from the spine, and if you get the spine and alignment, everything else will follow. Literally, a belief that you could, for example, cure cancer, by aligning the spine. That’s no better than energy healing, and the idea that you have energy flows that get interrupted and need to be corrected by using a certain crystal. Having…

> Literally, a belief that you could, for example, cure cancer, by aligning the spine.

I can assure you that 99% of chiropractors would never claim that they can cure cancer.

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#28
post #11

I come from a long lineage of chiropractors (although I’m not one). I’ve never been a big believer in the practice, and yes there are very rare cases where a chiropractic adjustment can lead to a stroke but again, it’s extremely rare. (Perhaps less rare if you’re going to the guy at the mall kiosk..) I’d like to see some scientific studies proving chiropractic adjustments are harmful. A lot of physical and mental hea…

Same lineage here. Great grandpa was a chiro. His boys all chiros. One of those was my grandpa, and all his boys chiros. None of the next generation took up the mantle. I’m a lawyer.

If the care is outright harmful, we all must have dodged a bullet.

And I have at least one or two anecdotes where the treatment genuinely brought me near-instant, lasting relief for an ache or pain.

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#29

At best, Chiropractors are bullshit. At worst, they kill or paralyze people. Their manipulations offer temporary pain relief because they forcefully mobilize the joint/bone structure. The only way to fix this long term is by correcting the muscle imbalances through physical therapy. Most people would rather get immediate pain relief vs months of therapy and exercise, so they have a constant supply of victims. Chiropr…

Some chiropractors do have the education and experience to operate as physical therapists. When I was doing competitive weight lifting, I saw a chiro who had a masters in sports medicine and had spent years as a college football trainer. He ran his office like a rehab clinic, and a lot of his clients were high school, college, and amateur athletes like me. He wasn't just popping some bones and moving on, he was working to keep his patients healthy through identifying weaknesses and imbalances and making training recommendations to correct them. Being a chiro got people in the door who didn't understand what their problem was to begin with, just that they needed relief.

I realize the industry is full of snake oil practitioners, but some of them are actual professionals.

Re: Chiropractors are bullshit

#30
post #11

I come from a long lineage of chiropractors (although I’m not one). I’ve never been a big believer in the practice, and yes there are very rare cases where a chiropractic adjustment can lead to a stroke but again, it’s extremely rare. (Perhaps less rare if you’re going to the guy at the mall kiosk..) I’d like to see some scientific studies proving chiropractic adjustments are harmful. A lot of physical and mental hea…

> I’d like to see some scientific studies proving chiropractic adjustments are harmful.

The burden of proof lies very much in the other direction.

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