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Re: Renaming Coq

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Post by infinitezest »

8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #19
93AGSbY wrote: post #18

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You haven't seen a trend to ban anything remotely offensive to US citizens in the past few years? The coq-club archives seem to have vanished, but a Reddit thread suggests that the initial thread title was: "Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis? This year, I had a student point out to me the 'flesh-colored logo with what looks like a mushroom top'." Apart from the fact that the logo looks like a strange ches…

OK it seems like this is some sort of like culture wars type issue for you which I'm not really into.

I can't figure out what this comment is trying to say. Do you disagree that the trend exists? Or that it's not a bad thing? Either way, this strikes me as awfully dismissive. If you just didn't want to engage, why reply at all?

Re: Renaming Coq

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Post by 8fGTBjZxBcHq »

infinitezest wrote: post #21
8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK it seems like this is some sort of like culture wars type issue for you which I'm not really into.

I can't figure out what this comment is trying to say. Do you disagree that the trend exists? Or that it's not a bad thing? Either way, this strikes me as awfully dismissive. If you just didn't want to engage, why reply at all?

When I posted the first one in this thread, I didn't realize there was some previous discussion about this decision by this project. I read the post, then came in here and saw a comment that had jumped from that post to a conspiracy-ish project to ban all "offensive" words or something. I didn't have the context at the time to hear the dogwhistle so to speak so it seemed purely ridiculous.

Now that it's clear what they are actually worried about, yes it was meant to be dismissive. I'm not convinced this trend is real or that it's a problem if it is.

Re: Renaming Coq

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Post by junon »

Jiocus wrote: post #3
junon wrote: post #2

I always thought it was Co-Q. I thought surely no way it was pronounced "cock". Welp. I think this is a good move.

They do feature a rooster or cock in their logo. The current name makes me think of A. Le Coq , an Estonian brewery. Hopefully, my association will have no impact on their naming decision :)

I know, and despite me being the first to notice this in just about any scenario, ai didn't put the two together until I saw this. Maybe I should sleep more.

Re: Renaming Coq

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Post by Zababa »

8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #16
Zababa wrote: post #14

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"bit" (the english word) is pronounced exactly like "bite" (the french word), \bit\. The funny thing is that we often use "octet" to refer to bytes (which are pronounced /baɪt/ so no problems here) but we have no alternative for bit.

I don't know where you learned French or English for that matter but in my pretty mainstream accents English "bit" and French "bite" are not pronounced very similarly. I can't imagine a competent speaker confusing them.

I'm a native French, and the french wiktionary seems to agree with me https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/bite https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/bit : Both are pronounced \bit\. You can listen to the pronunciation and it's exactly the same. I remember a few jokes around this in university. I've also found this where a few people suggest pronouncing "bit" exactly like "bite".

I don't really know what else to say other that I'm French, went through university in France and we had this confusion.

Re: Renaming Coq

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Post by jjgreen »

Zababa wrote: post #14
jjgreen wrote: post #12

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bite , no?

"bit" (the english word) is pronounced exactly like "bite" (the french word), \bit\. The funny thing is that we often use "octet" to refer to bytes (which are pronounced /baɪt/ so no problems here) but we have no alternative for bit.

But in French, the word "bit" (as a French word) would be pronounced /bi/, as with dit ? That the French chose to continue to pronounce it in the English fashion suggests that they rather like the joke opportunity :-)

Re: Renaming Coq

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Post by 8fGTBjZxBcHq »

Zababa wrote: post #24
8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where you learned French or English for that matter but in my pretty mainstream accents English "bit" and French "bite" are not pronounced very similarly. I can't imagine a competent speaker confusing them.

I'm a native French, and the french wiktionary seems to agree with me https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/bite https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/bit : Both are pronounced \bit\. You can listen to the pronunciation and it's exactly the same. I remember a few jokes around this in university. I've also found this where a few people suggest pronouncing "bit" exactly like "bite". I don't really know what else to say other that I'…

Huh interesting. Must just be an accent thing. I have a southern US accent in English and American accent with SW France influences in French. To me they aren't that similar but I do see how they could be. You're the native speaker though so I don't really have a leg to stand on here.
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