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1988: P.R.E.S.T.A.V.B.A.

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yugoslavia wasn't exactly part of the USSR block after 1956 and it actually was part of the group of independent nations.

I didn't notice anything about Yugoslavia in the article...? I thought the comment referred to Czechoslovakia.

My bad, HN doesn't make obvious to screen readers who is answering to whom and I thought that you mean the comment with the Yugo radio programs.

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That was the amazing thing about being a kid in the late 70's and early 80's. Cheap computers existed that had the tools to allow you to pass programs to others like a mix tape. Now with iDevices, you need permission from a corporation to pass programs to others. I would guess this might be problematic with protest games.

Wouldn’t you say it is easier now? Just create a web based adventure game (you can export HTML/CSS with Twine for text based adventure games), encode the URL as a QR code and simply swap those with people?

Fair point. It seems that the web doesn't forbid you to do your own stuff on the side, it's just that the mainstream has become a commercial enterprise with its (large) share of constraint. Probably nothing new under the sun.

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#23

For non CZ/SK people reading this. This story is an extremely niche example of "anti" communist games. For example, transgoogle this article https://gaudeo.sk/jaro-filip-online/ and watch the video posted there, which is from 1986 and it was airtimed in the state television as an 8-episode-long series. Jaro Filip, the guy from the '86 video is openly saying that he is playing Alien 8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch…

He’s not a USD millionaire, only CZK millionaire.

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That was the amazing thing about being a kid in the late 70's and early 80's. Cheap computers existed that had the tools to allow you to pass programs to others like a mix tape. Now with iDevices, you need permission from a corporation to pass programs to others. I would guess this might be problematic with protest games.

Wouldn’t you say it is easier now? Just create a web based adventure game (you can export HTML/CSS with Twine for text based adventure games), encode the URL as a QR code and simply swap those with people?

You'd still need to host it, which involves money, a way to pay for it (credit card), which includes proving/disclosing your identity (which would be dangerous if you're speaking out against an authoritarian government), sometimes you legally have to be over 18 or 21 to enter into contracts (so if the service provider finds out you're underage they can shut down your account even if you otherwise pay the bill), and hosting anything controversial or that goes against the mainstream is unlikely to stay up for long if it gets popular.

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For non CZ/SK people reading this. This story is an extremely niche example of "anti" communist games. For example, transgoogle this article https://gaudeo.sk/jaro-filip-online/ and watch the video posted there, which is from 1986 and it was airtimed in the state television as an 8-episode-long series. Jaro Filip, the guy from the '86 video is openly saying that he is playing Alien 8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch…

Pretty fascinating niche. On one of my trips over there a Czech cousin told me how they had to be careful even dubbing Michael Jackson tapes in the 80s since American media was not allowed at all. These games seem a lot riskier. Edit: Thanks to the comments on this it seems things weren't so dire in the 80s. My cousin was a kid then--perhaps he was recounting more 70s era stories from his older sister or something! I…

It wasn't banned per se - it was just that with a non-exchangable currency getting hold of a copy of anything was difficult.

Some western productions would make it through the iron curtain, but they needed to be checked and usually censored beforehand. Politically correct (in the original meaning of the expression) poster art was a genre in and of itself:

https://www.fanthatracks.com/news/collecting/star-wars-poste...

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#26
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't notice anything about Yugoslavia in the article...? I thought the comment referred to Czechoslovakia.

My bad, HN doesn't make obvious to screen readers who is answering to whom and I thought that you mean the comment with the Yugo radio programs.

So basically screen readers blindly stumble into comment trees? Never thought of that.

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For non CZ/SK people reading this. This story is an extremely niche example of "anti" communist games. For example, transgoogle this article https://gaudeo.sk/jaro-filip-online/ and watch the video posted there, which is from 1986 and it was airtimed in the state television as an 8-episode-long series. Jaro Filip, the guy from the '86 video is openly saying that he is playing Alien 8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch…

Pretty fascinating niche. On one of my trips over there a Czech cousin told me how they had to be careful even dubbing Michael Jackson tapes in the 80s since American media was not allowed at all. These games seem a lot riskier. Edit: Thanks to the comments on this it seems things weren't so dire in the 80s. My cousin was a kid then--perhaps he was recounting more 70s era stories from his older sister or something! I…

50s yes, 60s maybe, But in the 80's? Nah. 80s especially were the very best, my friend ;). Think of it like a more prosperous Cuba of 2021.

Check this out: Gumení chlapci (Rubber Boys) 1984 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFnmy6q9d8M

1987 Diskopríbeh (Disco story) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pac_Uabo-hY

1988 Kamarát do dešte (A friend through the rain) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b-DC7GJIe8

I mean, unless your friend was into politics, it wasn't so tough in the 80s. At lest for the more commercial music. Punk or Metal people have it hard, but Jazz or Pop/Rock was ok.

This is one rock band from 1985 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz_y401AFOo

Paradoxically they made an anti communist anthem a few years later, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJucQNdBJo4

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For non CZ/SK people reading this. This story is an extremely niche example of "anti" communist games. For example, transgoogle this article https://gaudeo.sk/jaro-filip-online/ and watch the video posted there, which is from 1986 and it was airtimed in the state television as an 8-episode-long series. Jaro Filip, the guy from the '86 video is openly saying that he is playing Alien 8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch…

He’s not a USD millionaire, only CZK millionaire.

Considering he sold 15M CZK of Bitcoin two months ago and has much more left, he is USD millionaire.

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For non CZ/SK people reading this. This story is an extremely niche example of "anti" communist games. For example, transgoogle this article https://gaudeo.sk/jaro-filip-online/ and watch the video posted there, which is from 1986 and it was airtimed in the state television as an 8-episode-long series. Jaro Filip, the guy from the '86 video is openly saying that he is playing Alien 8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch…

Pretty fascinating niche. On one of my trips over there a Czech cousin told me how they had to be careful even dubbing Michael Jackson tapes in the 80s since American media was not allowed at all. These games seem a lot riskier. Edit: Thanks to the comments on this it seems things weren't so dire in the 80s. My cousin was a kid then--perhaps he was recounting more 70s era stories from his older sister or something! I…

That must be some kind of joke on their side because e. g. Michael Jackon’s Thriller was released in CS in 1984 by Supraphon (LP monopoly at the time).

Access to the west music was certainly limited but not impossible, due to proximity to Austria and Germany it was very easy to watch and listen to their stations and as described above, some LPs were even released in CS. I remember drooling over Depeche Mode’s Music For The Masses back in cca 1988 but it was above may pocket money-grade.

But I’m talking about the eighties when the gerontocracy was unable to deal with people’s desires, the regime was certainly much tougher in 70’s.

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