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Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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Re: Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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How on earth does google manage to still be one of the most valuable (in $$$) companies in the world with this kind of behavior. I just can't imagine treating my customers half as bad as the way google does and still continue to be in business.

Abruptly dropping support for products[1], violating their user's privacy [2] , working with organizations accused of human rights violations. Each passing year it seems google is trying to unlock all the badges under the "be as evil as possible" campaign mode.

Funny bit is how you can replace the words "ads" and "android app" in the title with any two other names of google products and this same situation would still apply.

[1]https://killedbygoogle.com/

[2]https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/google-sued-u-s-tracki...

Re: Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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> Google will never tell you why they banned you from AdSense/AdMob. (Honestly, it sort of makes sense that they share no evidence, because Google doesn’t want people to learn how Google detects click fraud.) I disagree with this as I mentioned on a prior post about DroidScript. If a justice system doesn't tell people what crime they committed, what proof they have of such crimes etc, then such systems are exploitati…

But justice system works equally for everyone, while this is private sector, where contracts rule. It is apple vs pear. Same to freedom of speech. Anyone can say anything in public, but if someone post a thread in Google Groups, they can ban you for whatever reason, because the user agreed to their ToS first.

Of course, DroidScript has the freedom to choose different ad provider altogether, but they didn't.

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Epik and Namecheap are pretty good imo. Definitely don't use GoDaddy. EDIT: One can find several instances where users search domain names on GoDaddy and they are available at regular price but when they try to place the order, the domain is no longer available and must be bought at a premium price.

Epik is excited to provide services for white supremacists. I'd think thrice if this is a vendor I'd like to have my name associated with.

Here we go again with the "white supremacist" boogeyman. Not worth discussing this because such discussions never change anyone's minds.

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If there's a good alternative never use Google anything. The sole fact that there is no appeal system to account shutdowns and the way they just kill services at random should be enough reason for anyone.

Stories like this always scare me because they remind me that all of my domain names are on Google domains, including the one I use for my work email address. I gotta migrate out one of these days.

I've been using NameSilo for a while.

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Epik is excited to provide services for white supremacists. I'd think thrice if this is a vendor I'd like to have my name associated with.

Here we go again with the "white supremacist" boogeyman. Not worth discussing this because such discussions never change anyone's minds.

It's only a boogeyman if you're white.

Re: Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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I'd extend this even further: never use a single account for more than one purpose. Create a separate account at the same company for the other purpose. Some examples: - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. - Nothing tied to your consumer accounts should be used for anything business related. - Your Amazon shopping account and your AWS account should defin…

> - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc.

I wouldn’t do this with Facebook. Creating a second account is against Facebook policy, and they may ban both accounts.

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If there's a good alternative never use Google anything. The sole fact that there is no appeal system to account shutdowns and the way they just kill services at random should be enough reason for anyone.

Stories like this always scare me because they remind me that all of my domain names are on Google domains, including the one I use for my work email address. I gotta migrate out one of these days.

Dreamhost is also great for domain names.

Re: Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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It really does feel like there's a day of reckoning coming for services that can boot you with one fell swoop. And unfortunately it's unlikely to come from the source or from a general public appeal, but from government intervention.

My adsense account was banned years ago. No details, no receptiveness to appeals. It's the kind of thing that's kept me from some personal/professional pursuits because I know there's a big barrier to monetization should it gain traction.

Google (or Apple) purgatory really doesn't seem like a sustainable business model. Someday they'll tick off the wrong person and it will turn into a big deal involving the government

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stories like this always scare me because they remind me that all of my domain names are on Google domains, including the one I use for my work email address. I gotta migrate out one of these days.

Epik and Namecheap are pretty good imo. Definitely don't use GoDaddy. EDIT: One can find several instances where users search domain names on GoDaddy and they are available at regular price but when they try to place the order, the domain is no longer available and must be bought at a premium price.

Love Namecheap. Used them for years, esp was proud when they joined the campaign to protect Net Neutrality.
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