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I think you are romanticizing both who this was available to and how "easy" being a settler was...
These days anywhere desireable to live, and likely all known available farm land, is already owned by someone or some company. Vagabonding isn’t what it used to be, insofar as there is seemingly not even the remotest chance in modernity of backdooring your way into zero cost homesteading. Societal advancement has come at the cost of those opportunities which have more or less vanished.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
These days anywhere desireable to live, and likely all known available farm land, is already owned by someone or some company. Vagabonding isn’t what it used to be, insofar as there is seemingly not even the remotest chance in modernity of backdooring your way into zero cost homesteading. Societal advancement has come at the cost of those opportunities which have more or less vanished.
The "pioneers" you are jealous of did not homestead unoccupied land...
Regardless, I think it’s a horrible critique of the miserably dystopic political climate we’re in today that such plain statements about factual reality can’t even be made without someone feeling it necessary to call attention to a more recent historical example of the powerful driving out the powerless — a dynamic which has been with humans and every other creature on this planet since time immemorial.
Nomadism in antiquity had at least some chance of resulting in zero cost homesteading for those brave people willing to endanger their own lives to engage in it. It was more a reflection on the hidden plight of modernity — not being able to afford a home, despite our forefathers being able to just homestead at zero up front cost mere centuries ago — than a projection of jealousy or some other contrivance.
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Weren't there some locals that had to be ... moved out first before the land was virtually free?
At some point in antiquity, it was feasible for human adults to settle “unsettled” land. It is a boring and simple fact that this is no longer possible. TFA used an example from the 1800s, so I stuck with that era. This is getting off topic.
Free land never went away. Demand for it did.
Just equally, there is plenty of virtually free or very cheap homes in the U.S., many of them are in good condition (or at least, plots of land to build oneself, do get dirt cheap). It's just this happens in places with no jobs - but people in XIX century were not looking for jobs.
That's also the reason why free and open-for-all immigration was banned in 1930s: that was a turning point when people stopped coming for "20 acres and a mule" (while these were still plentiful), but wanted industrial jobs, and thus homes in the cities, and these were a scarce resource.
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#24Not having money is horrible. The only benefit of not having money is that it makes all other horrible life conditions and outcomes seem somewhat less horrible comparatively. It dulls the pain and stress receptors.
> The only benefit of not having money is that it makes all other horrible life conditions and outcomes seem somewhat less horrible comparatively. It dulls the pain and stress receptors.
^^ so what they're saying is that if you're being diagnosed with a terminal disease you might be so far into depression and suicidal ideation[1] that it literally doesn't matter any more because you have no power (money) to solve it. Think about your own privilege that causes you to not comprehend what is being said before you downvote something you can't empathize with.
[1] https://www.refinery29.com/en-ca/what-is-passive-suicidal-id...
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
At some point in antiquity, it was feasible for human adults to settle “unsettled” land. It is a boring and simple fact that this is no longer possible. TFA used an example from the 1800s, so I stuck with that era. This is getting off topic.
There's hell lot of virtually free land in the world today. A lot of it is very habitable and has decent climate, or has moderate issues easily solvable with today's technology (say air conditioning for hot and humid climates). It never went away. It's just that money one can make from just a piece of land is not enough anymore: these people in the XIX century went after some arable land for family farms, but it just…
there are places where an individual can hide and gradually go insane alone. But I don't know where today one could go and bring their whole family/tribe/clan and settle down.
No matter how dry or hostile the area, the moment you're moving from surviving to thriving (which you often will if you're in a pack) the locals or the government will find ways to remove you. And it would be even worse if you don't hold a passport from that country.
Humans are pack animals so the "no more demand" argument perhaps isn't too strong.
When I lived in France in July/August the pigs regularly picked up Roma[1] traveling through from Spain. They usually got by washing windows at traffic lights. They drove them 20-30 km away into a forest where they set them free and let them walk home. I walked my dogs in the Parc de la Valmasque where they were frequently set lose among other places (even further away). Many times I watched it unfold in my parked car and the pigs abusing some person with a baton or simply shouting and threatening them. When the pigs were gone I offered them a drive back to Cannes or Nice. Sometimes kids with age 10 or 12 literally alone not knowing where tf they were or how they can get back (and then having to trust as stranger to offer a ride in their car to drive them back).
It's not that "there simply is no demand for it". But we no longer see it when the system commits these crimes[2]. It's expected normal behavior the moment you monopolize violence by giving it to one group over another.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
[2] UK Johnson government launches anti-Gypsy/Traveller/Roma measures https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/12/28/trav-d28.html
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#27I really enjoyed reading this article. But ... as the owner of a sprinter van, this sentence leaped out at me: >Frances McDormand plays the fictional nomad Fern, whom the story follows over the course of about a year of wandering around the American West in a sprinter van sometime after the death of her husband. Fern does not drive a Sprinter. Call me picky. Call me a pedantic asshole. It's OK.
Deep down in their hearts, they are all Ford Transits. In the case of the sprinter, that was once literally true.
> The Metropolitan Police reported on this vehicle in 1972 via a Scotland Yard spokesman that "Ford Transits are used in 95 per cent of bank raids. With the performance of a car, and space for 1.75 tonnes of loot, the Transit is proving to be the perfect getaway vehicle", describing it as "Britain's most wanted van".[1]
Legendary vehicle.
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#28Not having money is horrible. The only benefit of not having money is that it makes all other horrible life conditions and outcomes seem somewhat less horrible comparatively. It dulls the pain and stress receptors.
no idea why you're being downvoted. not having money is not only shit because it robs you of all agency, but it's also the most expensive form of existence. Being forced to spend $10 on something later because you can't afford spending $5 on it _today_ is a classic example but it comes in other shapes too such as having to say YES to anything -even it's dangerous or a scam- because it's still better than "no options"…
The observation about falling for scams is spot-on. Nowadays you don't even have to be very poor to find yourself in this situation. Opportunities are so rare that you cannot pass up any opportunity at all, if there is even 10% chance that it's not a scam, then it could be the best opportunity of your life... I'm not even talking about lottery, getting a decent paid job can feel like a lottery when you don't have any money.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's hell lot of virtually free land in the world today. A lot of it is very habitable and has decent climate, or has moderate issues easily solvable with today's technology (say air conditioning for hot and humid climates). It never went away. It's just that money one can make from just a piece of land is not enough anymore: these people in the XIX century went after some arable land for family farms, but it just…
> Free land never went away. Demand for it did. there are places where an individual can hide and gradually go insane alone. But I don't know where today one could go and bring their whole family/tribe/clan and settle down. No matter how dry or hostile the area, the moment you're moving from surviving to thriving (which you often will if you're in a pack) the locals or the government will find ways to remove you. And…
It's about price of land. It's easy to buy cheap land, just not in places where anyone wants or can afford living in.
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#30> After some months spent living in a shack in town, the Ingalls family claimed a plot of land through the Homestead Act, one of the country’s earliest large-scale social welfare programs, which promised free land to white settlers willing to cultivate it. After five years, if a family could “prove up,” showing they had built a profitable farm, they could keep it. Centuries ago, home ownership was readily obtainable…