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Crypto miners are killing free CI

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Re: Crypto miners are killing free CI

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Post by wea88 »

davidgerard wrote: post #11
Lyn_layerci wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this needs to be solved at the crypto level - attackers always have the advantage.

This is usually Monero mining, which is still feasible on general CPUs - particularly if you're stealing the compute power. Monero is quite hard to trade directly to actual money - you usually have to go via BTC or ETH. So a systemic fix basically involves crashing the price of crypto in general, to take away the financial motivation. (This is also one obvious solution to bitcoin's CO2 production - it's all about the…

lol David Gerard, you must be really sour your bets against bitcoin failed

Ignore this guy, he has a financial incentive for cryptocurrencies to fail

Re: Crypto miners are killing free CI

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Post by gjvnq »

Noob question: why not make a big delay to start processing build jobs (something like 1 hour). By then, whatever input they wanted to hash will be useless as a new block will be already minted.

As for build scripts that require a network connection, just make the connection painfully slow.

Re: Crypto miners are killing free CI

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Post by ronsor »

Ygg2 wrote: post #25

Silly question. But couldn't CI say in TOS, that any crypto currency mined using their CI/CD resources belongs to the host?

They could, but that wouldn't mean much for a few reasons:

* Cryptocurrency can't really be confiscated

* These malicious miners likely live in a country with a dubiously competent legal system.

* Lastly, it's not worth the money to try to collect.

Re: Crypto miners are killing free CI

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Post by xyzzy123 »

gjvnq wrote: post #24

Noob question: why not make a big delay to start processing build jobs (something like 1 hour). By then, whatever input they wanted to hash will be useless as a new block will be already minted. As for build scripts that require a network connection, just make the connection painfully slow.

Because then your CI provides slow feedback on changes :/

Re: Crypto miners are killing free CI

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Post by hnarn »

xyzzy123 wrote: post #27
gjvnq wrote: post #24

Noob question: why not make a big delay to start processing build jobs (something like 1 hour). By then, whatever input they wanted to hash will be useless as a new block will be already minted. As for build scripts that require a network connection, just make the connection painfully slow.

Because then your CI provides slow feedback on changes :/

Isn't this discussion about free CI? Seems like the answer is quite simple then: if you want it faster, pay for it.

Re: Crypto miners are killing free CI

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Post by hnarn »

It seems like a law of the Internet that "nothing nice will last". If there's a potential for abuse, it will be abused and the rule-abiding majority will suffer for it. Firefox Send is another example of this, it was pretty obvious from the start that the threat vector of abuse would make it untenable in the long term even if the service itself was awesome.
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