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Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Post by permo-w »

imwillofficial wrote: post #10
thejsa wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why would android even allow such restrictions to be enabled in the first place? To enforce DRM in streaming apps, mostly; though other apps have ended up bodging that for their own purposes. I suppose at least in the context of secure messaging or banking apps (which also do this) it makes you think twice before snapping something, but even so I think there should be a variant of whatever API which lets the user o…

The irony of Android stopping this, and iOS allowing it is not lost on me.

iOS definitely stops it to an extent

you can’t screen record or screenshot netflix or disney+

it doesn’t explicitly block it, but the screen just comes out black or stuck on a single frame

whether that’s a feature or an exploit, I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem too unreasonable

Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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motohagiography wrote: post #5

There is definitely an aversion to email because it creates a paper trail. Messenger apps can be organized privately and not be subject to information requests. Current surveillance capitalism tech could easily keep politicians and governments 100% accountable if we turned it on them. If you live in an outwardly democratic country with strong rules about public service transparency and individual citizen privacy, but…

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Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Post by rsa25519 »

MikeUt wrote: post #18
shoto_io wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The truth is: No one cares. I mean, very few people really care. Mobile phones have been able to bring computation to the masses, including poor countries. PCs were a luxury item even in the Western World. Accessibility and standardization have been the driver of this change, not customization. After all, mobile phones are now sort of a mass product like TVs back then. No one really "owned" a TV either. You can call…

No one cares, until they do, and it's too late. A chain does not stop being a chain just because your master hasn't yanked it yet. Apple pulls police-tracking app used by Hong Kong protesters after consulting authorities - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/apple-pulls-police-tracki...

Good thing that Android allows side-loading apps

Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Post by rsa25519 »

> They can also stop screenshots being taken of exchanges if they are using an Android phone.

This is terribly misleading. A Signal user can disable screenshots being taken on their own device (something like "disable screenshots on my phone when I'm using this app") but Signal makes no attempt to apply this policy to other people in a conversation. It's not like Snapchat, which attempt to block/track screenshots taken by any party.

Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Post by saurik »

spaceribs wrote: post #3

> They can also stop screenshots being taken of exchanges if they are using an Android phone. Does anyone else feel infuriated that apps can restrict screenshots from occurring? I can use an external camera if I really wanted to save a copy of a communication, or use a personal computer with no such limitations. Why would android even allow such restrictions to be enabled in the first place?

> I can use an external camera if I really wanted to save a copy of a communication...

To be fair, this would require the MP to have a second mobile phone. [looks at title of article] Oh. ;P

Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Post by al_chemist »

rsa25519 wrote: post #24
MikeUt wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one cares, until they do, and it's too late. A chain does not stop being a chain just because your master hasn't yanked it yet. Apple pulls police-tracking app used by Hong Kong protesters after consulting authorities - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/apple-pulls-police-tracki...

Good thing that Android allows side-loading apps

> allows

That word is blackli^Wblocklisted in Google developer documentation style guide.

https://developers.google.com/style/word-list

Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Post by nexuist »

permo-w wrote: post #21
imwillofficial wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony of Android stopping this, and iOS allowing it is not lost on me.

iOS definitely stops it to an extent you can’t screen record or screenshot netflix or disney+ it doesn’t explicitly block it, but the screen just comes out black or stuck on a single frame whether that’s a feature or an exploit, I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem too unreasonable

It is blocked on iOS but it's not the app's choice, it has to do with the video player utilizing DRM decoding hardware (Widevine-esque). That's why screenshots can be blocked on Netflix but not on Snapchat.

Re: Why MPs have two mobile phones

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Post by toast0 »

t0mas88 wrote: post #20
bmsleight_ wrote: post #13

I am not alone by having two phones. One personnel and one work. Knowing that the work phone I do not the phone or the data or anything. I also guard my own phone number like a hawk.

We offer the choice to all employees, either get a company phone which we pay for or a reimbursement for the costs of using your private phone plan for work if you only want to carry one phone. We pay $ 60 / month + whatever costs you make for travel or international calling in that case. Out of ~150 people I think 140+ choose to use their private phone for work. We had expected that to be very different.

I understand why you would want separate phones, but if you end up needing to carry two phones, it'sa big pain. Phones are pretty big these days, and finding room in your pocket(s) for two is hard. Figuring out which one to pull out when one buzzes is tricky. Charging two phones is harder than charging one. Practicality wins over privacy almost all the time, but thanks for making the option.
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