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Tesla Autopilot ‘easily’ tricked into working without anyone in the driver seat

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Re: Tesla Autopilot ‘easily’ tricked into working without anyone in the driver seat

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Musk said the logs show that the car wasn't even in autopilot mode. Driver maybe was trying to escape the fire and thus was not found in the driver seat. Although this is just as much speculation as assuming the autopilot was tricked so we should just wait and see what the investigation will show.

Govt has witnesses saying the dead passengers were showing off the Autopilot. I see no reason to believe Musk, a serial liar with a massive incentive to lie here. He even hedged by saying "data recovered so far" doesn't show Autopilot engaged.

Did you read my post? I didn't say I believe Musk. I said both stands are equality useless speculation and we should simply wait for the investigation result.

Either way one thing is rather certain, stupid humans where involved and are most likely the sole reason for the accident regardless of which story turns out to be true.

Re: Tesla Autopilot ‘easily’ tricked into working without anyone in the driver seat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Govt has witnesses saying the dead passengers were showing off the Autopilot. I see no reason to believe Musk, a serial liar with a massive incentive to lie here. He even hedged by saying "data recovered so far" doesn't show Autopilot engaged.

Did you read my post? I didn't say I believe Musk. I said both stands are equality useless speculation and we should simply wait for the investigation result. Either way one thing is rather certain, stupid humans where involved and are most likely the sole reason for the accident regardless of which story turns out to be true.

No one thinks Tesla murdered these men. They're worried that Tesla 1) lied to them about the capabilities of their car, and 2) failed to do very easy things to keep their car from endangering other people on the road.

Re: Tesla Autopilot ‘easily’ tricked into working without anyone in the driver seat

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I own this exact tractor https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Holland_TC30_HST... and even it has a sensor in the driver's seat that will stop it if there is less than 100 lbs in the driver's seat. (When my son weighed 80 lbs he couldn't drive it unless I put 2 10 lb weightlifting plates and put them in a backpack.) The purpose there is so that the tractor doesn't drag or crush you if you fall out of the seat,…

I actually find that these nanny features can be to be annoying. My car will beep continuously if I put something in the front passenger seat but don’t buckle the seat belt, because it thinks a passenger is riding without the seat belt. I would rather it just say something once and get out of the way, letting me use my car how I want.

For my car, you can turn on the ignition and buckle/unbuckle the drivers belt 3 times in a row. Doing that turns off the constant alarm and only chimes when you first start and shows the light on the panel. Maybe your car has something similar.
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