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Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by plank_time » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:31 AM UTC

credit_guy wrote: post #16

Ms Haddaway made a secret deal with the prosecutors and the prosecutors did not reveal this. But did she lie? What this article forgets to mention is that Ms Haddaway wore a wire and got Jonathan Smith on tape that he committed the murder in order to get $60000 [1]. Here's part of the dialog for reader's convenience: "[BH:]Why were you in that field with blood all over ya? And they take, I seen ya goin’up the road th…

It’s funny how these inconvenient facts are never brought up.

Thank you for this, it’s pretty eye opening.

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by suifbwish » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:33 AM UTC

boomboomsubban wrote: post #10

On top of all the other bullshit, his trial was thrown out a year ago but they still forced him to spend the pandemic locked up because... there's no reason given.

If any single person in the US is justified to go on a vandalism rampage it’s him.

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by andyxor » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:37 AM UTC

I hope it doesn't get that long to get Derek Chauvin released once the woke wave is over.

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:37 AM UTC

fortran77 wrote: post #17

credit_guy wrote: post #16

Ms Haddaway made a secret deal with the prosecutors and the prosecutors did not reveal this. But did she lie? What this article forgets to mention is that Ms Haddaway wore a wire and got Jonathan Smith on tape that he committed the murder in order to get $60000 [1]. Here's part of the dialog for reader's convenience: "[BH:]Why were you in that field with blood all over ya? And they take, I seen ya goin’up the road th…

I suspect at least half the people exonerated by the Innocence Project are in fact guilty. However, I think that sloppy police work should never be rewarded with a guilty verdict, even if it's likely the defendant is guilty.

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Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by userbinator » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:37 AM UTC

gentleman11 wrote: post #12

Imagine trying to restart your life after that. You would still be unemployable because of what comes up from google searches. Out of touch with everything

This guy is lucky to have one of the most generic names in existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Smith

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by plank_time » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:38 AM UTC

fortran77 wrote: post #17

credit_guy wrote: post #16

Ms Haddaway made a secret deal with the prosecutors and the prosecutors did not reveal this. But did she lie? What this article forgets to mention is that Ms Haddaway wore a wire and got Jonathan Smith on tape that he committed the murder in order to get $60000 [1]. Here's part of the dialog for reader's convenience: "[BH:]Why were you in that field with blood all over ya? And they take, I seen ya goin’up the road th…

I suspect at least half the people exonerated by the Innocence Project are in fact guilty. However, I think that sloppy police work should never be rewarded with a guilty verdict, even if it's likely the defendant is guilty.

I have a friend who works for ICE. She has literally deported assassins for the Mexican cartels. She said the hardest part of her job is that cities like San Francisco give millions of dollars to activist lawyers to help keep these criminals in the US. The activist lawyers and even SF know that these are real criminals but they don’t care. That money could be going to help the cases of real illegal immigrants who are making life better in the US but it’s instead going to defend these criminals. She says it’s really disheartening that they don’t care, they are blinded by trying to beat ICE.

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by wilsynet » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:38 AM UTC

plank_time wrote: post #21

credit_guy wrote: post #16

Ms Haddaway made a secret deal with the prosecutors and the prosecutors did not reveal this. But did she lie? What this article forgets to mention is that Ms Haddaway wore a wire and got Jonathan Smith on tape that he committed the murder in order to get $60000 [1]. Here's part of the dialog for reader's convenience: "[BH:]Why were you in that field with blood all over ya? And they take, I seen ya goin’up the road th…

It’s funny how these inconvenient facts are never brought up. Thank you for this, it’s pretty eye opening.

How do we know the so called taped evidence wasn’t manufactured?

I’m not usually given to conspiracy theories, but we already have plenty of evidence that the prosecution lied repeatedly in this case.

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by joshuamorton » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:45 AM UTC

credit_guy wrote: post #16

Ms Haddaway made a secret deal with the prosecutors and the prosecutors did not reveal this. But did she lie? What this article forgets to mention is that Ms Haddaway wore a wire and got Jonathan Smith on tape that he committed the murder in order to get $60000 [1]. Here's part of the dialog for reader's convenience: "[BH:]Why were you in that field with blood all over ya? And they take, I seen ya goin’up the road th…

> What this article forgets to mention is that Ms Haddaway wore a wire and got Jonathan Smith on tape that he committed the murder in order to get $60000 [1]. Here's part of the dialog for reader's convenience:

Of course, the state reviewed that evidence, and along side it evidence of a confession by a different individual, along with palm prints tying that person to the crime scene, which is included in the same document.

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by plank_time » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:47 AM UTC

wilsynet wrote: post #27

plank_time wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s funny how these inconvenient facts are never brought up. Thank you for this, it’s pretty eye opening.

How do we know the so called taped evidence wasn’t manufactured? I’m not usually given to conspiracy theories, but we already have plenty of evidence that the prosecution lied repeatedly in this case.

I mean, how can we know that any evidence isn’t manufactured?

Besides, the article definitely presents its side of the story, but the fact it left out a huge detail that the person admitted to committing the crime calls into question the article itself. What other things did it conveniently leave out?

Re: Jonathan Smith walks free after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment

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Post by lazyasciiart » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 2:48 AM UTC

plank_time wrote: post #26

fortran77 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect at least half the people exonerated by the Innocence Project are in fact guilty. However, I think that sloppy police work should never be rewarded with a guilty verdict, even if it's likely the defendant is guilty.

I have a friend who works for ICE. She has literally deported assassins for the Mexican cartels. She said the hardest part of her job is that cities like San Francisco give millions of dollars to activist lawyers to help keep these criminals in the US. The activist lawyers and even SF know that these are real criminals but they don’t care. That money could be going to help the cases of real illegal immigrants who are…

Perhaps ICE should focus their resources on these criminals instead of attempting to deport every person who ever crossed the border. Has she ever considered that this change might even be within their own power?