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Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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post #7

I see the Google hate on HN is strong enough that an article that just regurgitates the contents of a few articles and blog posts can be upvoted to #1 in short order.

The blog post actually just regurgitates HN comments, and now people are going to comment on that. The ouroboros has been perfected.

Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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Probably would have been better for the author to have taken the "don't sell out to a single cloud vendor API" angle. But I guess no clicky-baits for that approach. I've been screwed over by both AWS and Azure, and never by GCloud, but that doesn't mean I trust any of them.

Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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post #21
post #7

I see the Google hate on HN is strong enough that an article that just regurgitates the contents of a few articles and blog posts can be upvoted to #1 in short order.

The blog post actually just regurgitates HN comments, and now people are going to comment on that. The ouroboros has been perfected.

love to learn from the brightest minds on the internet

Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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I don't know, seems to be mostly filled with speculation and anecdotes. I can find similar anecdotes of bad behavior by Amzon, for example claims of using AWS to steal its users' business ideas[1]. Admittedly, the original author's title of "Why I distrust Google Cloud more than AWS or Azure" much better describes their position than the editorialized title of the HN submitter ("Why Google Cloud is less trustworthy t…

> Admittedly, the original author's title of "Why I distrust Google Cloud more than AWS or Azure" much better describes their position than the editorialized title of the HN submitter ("Why Google Cloud is less trustworthy than AWS or Azure"). Agreed. What is with the retitling?

Sometimes it is because of the title length limitations. I guess HN can could extend it a bit more by say 25 characters or so.

Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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Probably would have been better for the author to have taken the "don't sell out to a single cloud vendor API" angle. But I guess no clicky-baits for that approach. I've been screwed over by both AWS and Azure, and never by GCloud, but that doesn't mean I trust any of them.

The best (silliest) business model I've seen is the new thing of vendors promising to make you cross-cloud...via locking you into the platform offered by the vendor (which is usually entirely hosted on one specific cloud provider anyway).

There's valid reasons to support multiple providers, but that is definitely not one of them.

Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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post #20

I'm one of those "you'll get my baremetal and systemd out of my dead cold hands", kind of guy. But I have reasonable exposure to both AWS and GC and I can say that, by far, Google Cloud is easier to reason about. As a consequence, it's much harder to misconfigure. The 2 large AWS deploys I've seen have, at best, had billing issues no one really understood (incl AWS), and at worse, security issues. Complaining that ma…

From my side - I have never seen an easy Google Cloud deploy but have no problems working with AWS.

Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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I don't know, seems to be mostly filled with speculation and anecdotes. I can find similar anecdotes of bad behavior by Amzon, for example claims of using AWS to steal its users' business ideas[1]. Admittedly, the original author's title of "Why I distrust Google Cloud more than AWS or Azure" much better describes their position than the editorialized title of the HN submitter ("Why Google Cloud is less trustworthy t…

> Admittedly, the original author's title of "Why I distrust Google Cloud more than AWS or Azure" much better describes their position than the editorialized title of the HN submitter ("Why Google Cloud is less trustworthy than AWS or Azure"). Agreed. What is with the retitling?

Submitter (& author) here. I just changed the submission title to exactly match the original.

Re: Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

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What left a bad taste in my mouth is any quota increase getting rejected unless you got on a phone call with sales and listened to an upsell speech. I'm trying to give you money and you're putting roadblocks in front of me.

I don't know why all the cloud companies make you jump through so many hoops to get more quota - but Google has consistently been the fastest for me. Fill out some random Google Docs form (why does it have to be so dodgy?), receive quota within 24 hours.

Contrast:

Microsoft - flat out refused me more quota despite spending 10k/mo with them. Required me to convert to invoice billing, and then wanted a bunch of proof of incorporation and when my trading name didn't match my registration name they were unable to proceed.

Oracle - took 3 months of escalations and deliberations, required me to explain on the phone to a VP why I needed the quota.

AWS - frequently requiring me to write up a spiel about what I'm going to do with the quota before they approve it, increasing the RTT to 72hrs+ - do they actually verify this? How would they? Why do they care so much? We've spent 50k+ and always paid the bills, what's the issue?

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