It's surprising how much worse the covid situation has recently got in India. If you look at the cases graph https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ I'm not sure how it's gone from declining in Jan to super exponential in Mar/April?
Boris Johnson cancels India trip amid rising cases
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#22It's surprising how much worse the covid situation has recently got in India. If you look at the cases graph https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ I'm not sure how it's gone from declining in Jan to super exponential in Mar/April?
There's not a lot of data yet on that variant's transmissibility and lethality but it has already been detected in the UK.
Thus far it doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the Brazilian P1 variant, but could be trouble just the same.
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#23It's surprising how much worse the covid situation has recently got in India. If you look at the cases graph https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ I'm not sure how it's gone from declining in Jan to super exponential in Mar/April?
2 major festivals, Holi and Kumbh Mela (attended by over 2m people with no social distancing or anything), massive election rallies in multiple states. Poor vaccination drive. A double mutant variant of the virus that seems to be faster spreading. Medical system collapsing, almost everything that could go wrong is going wrong.
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#24The relationship between these two countries must be pretty awkward. The former colonizer is now a failing nation, while the colonized has the future.
I would hardly consider Britain a failed state compared to the utter poverty, religious violence, and sexual inequality tens of millions face daily there.
Things may change quickly and surprise me, but even my 90% estimate for the U.K. is Brexit-related incompetence (as opposed to COVID-related, so yes things can go sideways for new and exciting reasons at short notice) is that the U.K. as a whole ends up at least as strong as Wales is now, and Wales is doing about 13 times better by GDP than India. And yes, I know GDP isn’t everything, and I know that hypothetically the whole of the U.K. getting into internal conflicts equal to The Troubles in Northern Ireland (my gut says 5% chance of that) could be utterly devastating to the entire fabric of the nation… but that hasn’t happened yet, 5% isn’t very likely, and the more likely internal conflicts within the U.K. are highly regional.
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#25The relationship between these two countries must be pretty awkward. The former colonizer is now a failing nation, while the colonized has the future.
India and UK have essentially the same nominal GDP, while UK probably has ~ 1/20 the population. This despite not seeing none of the violent conflicts of East/SE Asia, either during the great war or after that. India consciously inherited the draconian colonial system of the past century, with all its inherent builtin cruelties, and has shown neither intent, nor any inclinations of changing this. It clearly serves th…
Re: Boris Johnson cancels India trip amid rising cases
#26The relationship between these two countries must be pretty awkward. The former colonizer is now a failing nation, while the colonized has the future.
India and UK have essentially the same nominal GDP, while UK probably has ~ 1/20 the population. This despite not seeing none of the violent conflicts of East/SE Asia, either during the great war or after that. India consciously inherited the draconian colonial system of the past century, with all its inherent builtin cruelties, and has shown neither intent, nor any inclinations of changing this. It clearly serves th…
Re: Boris Johnson cancels India trip amid rising cases
#27It's surprising how much worse the covid situation has recently got in India. If you look at the cases graph https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ I'm not sure how it's gone from declining in Jan to super exponential in Mar/April?
One word: variant. Variant B1617 has emerged and India and seems like it could be driving a surge. There's not a lot of data yet on that variant's transmissibility and lethality but it has already been detected in the UK. Thus far it doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the Brazilian P1 variant, but could be trouble just the same.
Speculation at this point to be honest.
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Given the man’s well documented history of pathological dishonesty [0], I suspect that body language is how he was elected. [0] e.g. https://youtu.be/ZVOV3sU8Ays
It’s somewhat crazy that I can’t tell without clicking whether this is about Modi or Johnson.
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What should they be based on? Its kind of stupid to ask people to behave like Spock like value maximizing machines.
> like value maximizing machines. thats the job of a head of state
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2 major festivals, Holi and Kumbh Mela (attended by over 2m people with no social distancing or anything), massive election rallies in multiple states. Poor vaccination drive. A double mutant variant of the virus that seems to be faster spreading. Medical system collapsing, almost everything that could go wrong is going wrong.
I live in India. Just got my first dose (Covishield -- which is the AstraZeneca derived vaccine manufactured by the Serum Institute). The process was really smooth. Just went to the website, (I could have used the AarogySetup COVID app, but preferred not install it,) was given an appointment date. Turned up on the appointment date, stood in line (a longish line -- a 3 hour wait) and got my vaccine. Was made to wait f…