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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by isatty » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:19 PM UTC

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

On an iPhone?

I was a noscript user from 10+ years ago (I guess?) and I’ve been using uBo for as long as I can remember but isn’t Firefox on iPhone just a wrapper? Is it battery efficient?

As a workaround I use a Pi-Hole (except, not on a pi).

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by bilekas » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:20 PM UTC

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Firefox does seem to have really improved over the last few iterations, performance also when large numbers of tabs open.

I cant find the link right now, but there was a nice timings done where Chrome was using less CPU at lower tab counts, but when it increased count, the CPU utilization was considerably higher than FF.

I'll be giving it a fair shake for a few months.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ohyeshedid » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:21 PM UTC

crocsarecool wrote: post #13

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

I, too, am tired of reading fanfic murder mysteries to get basic recipe information.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by axlee » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:21 PM UTC

pcf wrote: post #17

ub99 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use AdGuard pro on an iPhone and generally don’t see any ads at all in Safari. I believe this app will block ads in any iOS browser.

AFAIK, ads can only be blocked in Safari on iOS. I have Adguard on my iPhone, but it only works in Safari – not Firefox, which is the browser I use. So that's very annoying.

There are DNS blockers for iOS, which block most ads, including in-app ads. Just need to find the right list.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by whatshisface » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:21 PM UTC

bilekas wrote: post #22

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Firefox does seem to have really improved over the last few iterations, performance also when large numbers of tabs open. I cant find the link right now, but there was a nice timings done where Chrome was using less CPU at lower tab counts, but when it increased count, the CPU utilization was considerably higher than FF. I'll be giving it a fair shake for a few months.

Firefox recently rolled out an update that broke up the big GC passes into small GC passes. That contributed to a huge improvement in responsiveness.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by temp0826 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

godelski wrote: post #5

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

FF Mobile has uBlock

Firefox on iOS does not support extensions, fwiw

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by voxic11 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by nashashmi » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

I hear you. One of the greatest reasons I miss Firefox on android was because it allowed ublock.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by bilekas » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

crocsarecool wrote: post #13

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

The same, I find news articles particularly bad examples. I get advertisments, but news articles with excessive clickbaiity adds (adds not internal links to other articles) really do just make me close the tab down.

If there was some better mobile integration of the extensions or built into the browser itself to be perhaps less intrusive adds allowed it would be appreciated.

From that, are browsers legally allowed to implement an adblock/ublock directly into their browser ? Seems like something that would be considered against fair use or something along those lines.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by staticassertion » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

Sucks, but I'm pretty locked into Chrome. I use GSuite for management, ChromeOS, etc. Maybe it means that uBlock Origin can't protect me as well, but it's pretty hard for me to give up the benefits from all of those other things.

I don't see Firefox competing. Mozilla doesn't seem to believe that monetizing a browser is possible, whereas I pay thousands of dollars a year at my company because of Chrome's integrations with these other systems.

Until Firefox can compete like that, and maybe they just can't, I can't switch.