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Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Re: Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Post by paulnelligan »

I find this extremely worrying. Sure, I'm all for fighting the power, but a campaign like this could do a lot to damage our online freedom, e.g. the freedom to pay for things and conduct business online ... it would also result in governments limiting the internet in a way that they haven't done before, for a very long time ... that would really suck!

Re: Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Post by mvalle »

paulnelligan wrote: post #21

I find this extremely worrying. Sure, I'm all for fighting the power, but a campaign like this could do a lot to damage our online freedom, e.g. the freedom to pay for things and conduct business online ... it would also result in governments limiting the internet in a way that they haven't done before, for a very long time ... that would really suck!

If it will damage your freedom, then, by definition, you don't have freedom.

The effect this might have, if any, is to show who pretends to have/give freedom and who really has/gives it.

Re: Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Post by choko »

ggchappell wrote: post #12
itcmcgrath wrote: post #2

The short and sweet: Lulzsec is encouraging everyone to deface government websites with #AntiSec as well as in physical graffiti. 'Top priority is to steal and leak any classified government information, including email spools and documentation. Prime targets are banks and other high-ranking establishments'. Claims to have Anonymous on board. Does anyone else smell a less free Internet approaching closer?

> Does anyone else smell a less free Internet approaching closer? Hmmm ... any chance Lulzsec is really a false flag operation?

I had a similar thought, but the less free internet has been in the works for years before these guys came around. With or without groups like this, it is inevitable. The powers in place fear what they can't control.

Re: Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Post by paulnelligan »

mvalle wrote: post #22
paulnelligan wrote: post #21

I find this extremely worrying. Sure, I'm all for fighting the power, but a campaign like this could do a lot to damage our online freedom, e.g. the freedom to pay for things and conduct business online ... it would also result in governments limiting the internet in a way that they haven't done before, for a very long time ... that would really suck!

If it will damage your freedom, then, by definition, you don't have freedom. The effect this might have, if any, is to show who pretends to have/give freedom and who really has/gives it.

I get your point, and it's a valid one. I just hope that Lulz pick their targets wisely, because an all out war on the system will result in system lock-down, which will affect a lot of good people in negative ways, and will also fuel the governments belief that they should be exerting more control ...

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Post by jb55 »

conspiringguy wrote: post #16

Every time I hear about LulzSec, I say "Conspiracy Theory Time" before I read the HN comments page. Finally I have some worthy conspiracy which I think no one has posted before. It goes something like this. Axioms: 1. Most of the geeks and internet privacy aware people in America hate the American government. If not hate, they at least despise them for most of their new internet policies. 2. Out of these people there…

Most of these arguments (and most other conspiracy theories) can be shot down as just another instance of the Conjunction fallacy/Occam's Razor. The probability of a single event is always greater or equal to the probability of both events: P(A) >= P(A&B) where event A is 'Rebellious hacker teens' and event A&B is 'Rebellious hacker teens recruited by terrorists'.
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