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Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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> Employees were also expected to "live within commuting distance" of offices. I can't see how the must-be-in-office companies think they win this in the long term. All the companies that want to poach from FAANG will offer remote work

They are probably betting that this isn’t that big a deal for those of us that like remote work, and that ultimately when the day comes, we’d be unwilling to quit over it. We will see how well that ultimatum works out for them.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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> Employees were also expected to "live within commuting distance" of offices. I can't see how the must-be-in-office companies think they win this in the long term. All the companies that want to poach from FAANG will offer remote work

They aren't going to win this without tossing titanic amounts of money around to land folks that are willing to do this.

You assume that developers won't work for lower salaries, in exchange for the value that WFH provides?

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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> Employees were also expected to "live within commuting distance" of offices. I can't see how the must-be-in-office companies think they win this in the long term. All the companies that want to poach from FAANG will offer remote work

> All the companies that want to poach from FAANG will offer remote work

Some people will always pick remote jobs over all else, but the high compensation of FAANG is a huge hurdle to overcome for most employees.

Companies willing to pay FAANG competitive compensation and let people work fully remote are few and far between.

Most companies that start hiring remote quickly discover that they can save on compensation by hiring from locations where people don't have FAANG as an option.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

#24
Only if they prefer people working less hours. I get so much more done and stay working much later when I am just working right there. When I have to go in, I don’t go in till after my kids school starts and I return before the someone needs me. Now I wake up, chat with IST team, do a little breakfast wake up school stuff, take some meetings, and work for like fourteen hours without getting too stressed or that feeling I have to escape the cold and sunless office. When I am stuck on something I can take a walk.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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This is management's opening negotiating position. In the fight for talent, however, it is not clear that they have the upper hand, because, I, for one, will be more that willing to offer your employee the ability to work from home. I will ask that the team work out an appropriate culture, which probably includes coming to the office at least once a week -- but certainly not on the other hand four days a week. And I…

> I will ask that the team work out an appropriate culture, which probably includes coming to the office at least once a week That's essentially what this article is saying: The big tech companies are requiring employees to live within commuting distance of offices and to come in for some portion of their time. The question now is where the line is drawn on how often they can work from home. The companies aren't sayi…

I personally dislike the hybrid approach because it means everyone still has to remain in the greater Bay Area.

Surely there have to be more people like me that enjoy the bigco work but want to live in more human friendly places where we have an actual shot at establishing roots and living real lives.

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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post #20

> "If they want to become a people manager, if they want to get increasing responsibilities, or if they want to build a culture within their teams, how are we going to do that remotely?" he asked. I love how these executives are all of a sudden so worried about my career trajectory. Maybe you should assume I’ve thought about this trade-off and decided that I’m fine with no promotions if it meant I can work remotely.…

When you learn more and take on more responsibility and have more impact it helps the company, not just you. So they’re incentivized to keep you on a growth trajectory, regardless of your preferences.

I think it was more of an indictment on the actual effectiveness of management's attempts at providing career growth in the general sense.

Can always job hop for promotions, no need for your manager to be involved

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

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post #20

> "If they want to become a people manager, if they want to get increasing responsibilities, or if they want to build a culture within their teams, how are we going to do that remotely?" he asked. I love how these executives are all of a sudden so worried about my career trajectory. Maybe you should assume I’ve thought about this trade-off and decided that I’m fine with no promotions if it meant I can work remotely.…

When you learn more and take on more responsibility and have more impact it helps the company, not just you. So they’re incentivized to keep you on a growth trajectory, regardless of your preferences.

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Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

#29

> "If they want to become a people manager, if they want to get increasing responsibilities, or if they want to build a culture within their teams, how are we going to do that remotely?" he asked. I love how these executives are all of a sudden so worried about my career trajectory. Maybe you should assume I’ve thought about this trade-off and decided that I’m fine with no promotions if it meant I can work remotely.…

Also, this is bullshit. As if you can’t build culture remotely. SMH

Re: Remote working: Is Big Tech going off work from home?

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't going to win this without tossing titanic amounts of money around to land folks that are willing to do this.

You assume that developers won't work for lower salaries, in exchange for the value that WFH provides?

In practice, I've found that most candidates don't really care about anything other than total compensation.

I've worked at companies that offered private offices, work from home, great health insurance, flexible schedules, catered lunch every day, and all of the usual perks. We'd still lose out on hires to companies offering a couple thousand more than we did.

Come decision time, few people are actually willing to take the lower number. People willing to compromise compensation for other benefits are out there, but they're more rare than you might think.

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