The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland • Hacker News Board

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by aww_dang » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:26 PM UTC

fallingknife wrote: post #6

> When the hoster receives an official request from the US to remove copyrighted materials – a DMCA takedown notice – the men do nothing about it, says a person who saw it happen. „DMCAs are just tossed in the wastepaper basket.” Subletters even advertise this ‘service’. „DMCA ignored” reads one advertisement offering space in the „state of the art Ecatel DataCenter, located in Amsterdam”. The Dutch hosting company d…

Many of the robo-DMCA-claim firms simply search for the string of a movie title. If the page in question is determined by their poorly written software to include the content, a DMCA takedown request is spammed. No human confirmation is involved. One wonders who the abusers and spammers are in this situation.

Of course some will claim that provisions exist for damages to be claimed in the event of false takedowns, but it is hard if not impossible to collect. Typically you need to provide all of your personal data to respond.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by bayindirh » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:28 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

raverbashing wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes (he should have known not to take liquids as hand-luggage on a flight) Edit: as hand-luggage

Can you not take spirits, wine, or beer (sealed) on a flight in the EU? EDIT: Removed question about duty free, answered by replies below. Odd, as in the US, there is no limit if in your checked baggage if below 24% ABV, and 5 liters if 24% - 70% (carry on has much stricter limits [3.4oz or less that can fit comfortably in one quart-sized, clear, zip-top bag], but is still permitted). https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06…

Duty free shops put your bottles in a sealed transparent bag with the receipt, everything is perfectly visible.

You're not allowed to open the bag on the flight, obviously.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:36 PM UTC

KirbyTetro wrote: post #11

These issues are endemic to any platform. Even mainstream blogging sites like Tumblr had issues with the large quantities of child pornography being shared by the users. It's the users posting illegal content that should be held accountable not the platform owners.

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Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

fireeyed wrote: post #9

The hosting company could be a cesspool but I just checked one of the news blog site the article attributed to ‘right wing radicals’. The content looks like Dutch version of Buzzfeed or TMZ https://vizieroplinks.org/

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Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by iandanforth » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

Hosting center known to multiple nations as a hotbed for illicit activity that surprisingly hasn't been shut down? Yeah that's a compromised system.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by luckylion » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:39 PM UTC

polishdude20 wrote: post #17

KirbyTetro wrote: post #11

These issues are endemic to any platform. Even mainstream blogging sites like Tumblr had issues with the large quantities of child pornography being shared by the users. It's the users posting illegal content that should be held accountable not the platform owners.

Yeah isn't this akin to say, posting child pornography on electrical poles in the city and then blaming the city for it?

No. The servers in the data center are rented to specific clients. If these clients commit crimes and the DC operator knows about it but chooses not to shut down the offenders, that's their business feature.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:42 PM UTC

t0mas88 wrote: post #2

North Holland is quickly rising in datacenter fame... They also have an ongoing conflict between local and higher level government about Microsoft building a huge datacenter and using all their renewable (wind) energy.

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Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by Grollicus » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

aww_dang wrote: post #21

fallingknife wrote: post #6

> When the hoster receives an official request from the US to remove copyrighted materials – a DMCA takedown notice – the men do nothing about it, says a person who saw it happen. „DMCAs are just tossed in the wastepaper basket.” Subletters even advertise this ‘service’. „DMCA ignored” reads one advertisement offering space in the „state of the art Ecatel DataCenter, located in Amsterdam”. The Dutch hosting company d…

Many of the robo-DMCA-claim firms simply search for the string of a movie title. If the page in question is determined by their poorly written software to include the content, a DMCA takedown request is spammed. No human confirmation is involved. One wonders who the abusers and spammers are in this situation. Of course some will claim that provisions exist for damages to be claimed in the event of false takedowns, bu…

I wish people would find a way to monetize obviously false DMCA requests.

I know of some people who basically finance their niche bulletin boards via police requests - they get something in the range of 2-3 digits (€) for a information request. Get a few of these a year and your hosting costs are paid.

There's not a lot of money to be made but if it's your hobby anyways..

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by polishdude20 » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:48 PM UTC

luckylion wrote: post #26

polishdude20 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah isn't this akin to say, posting child pornography on electrical poles in the city and then blaming the city for it?

No. The servers in the data center are rented to specific clients. If these clients commit crimes and the DC operator knows about it but chooses not to shut down the offenders, that's their business feature.

I'm considering the previous posters comment on how the users who post illegal materials should be responsible, not the platform. But yeah that makes sense. In this case it would be as if the city knew about the child pornography on the street but decided not to do anything about it.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by iudqnolq » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 6:55 PM UTC

fallingknife wrote: post #6

> When the hoster receives an official request from the US to remove copyrighted materials – a DMCA takedown notice – the men do nothing about it, says a person who saw it happen. „DMCAs are just tossed in the wastepaper basket.” Subletters even advertise this ‘service’. „DMCA ignored” reads one advertisement offering space in the „state of the art Ecatel DataCenter, located in Amsterdam”. The Dutch hosting company d…

I don't care morally about the DMCA, but you're a dick if you pull pranks on your child pornography reporting form

> For reasons that are unclear, the web form that the two men drew up for reporting gruesome images is designed in such a way that the system can only handle five reports an hour. That is unworkable, according to the hotline.