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Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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That's interesting, since my assumption is that Google would be fairly data driven. I'd be curious if Googlers feel like this is because they are really seeing reduced productivity, or if there's a different motivation.

Google HR told me “data showed remote doesn’t work” I asked for the data and never got it.

I don’t work their anymore

Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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Remote work is terrible for productivity especially if the company was not already remote first. In my employer, we've noticed a 30-40% productivity dip across the board. Not only that, but people are reporting more stress and are working unhealthy hours. Replying to emails at 9pm, etc.

The communication breakdowns are constant. Previously you'd absorb information through osmosis, but the watercooler chat about projects and upcoming initiatives has outright stopped.

If in person meetings are 10 in terms of information bandwidth, video calls are less than 6. They're just terrible. Oh, I accidentally interrupted someone yet again because of lag despite us all having fiber internet. Amazing.

Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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post #4

That's interesting, since my assumption is that Google would be fairly data driven. I'd be curious if Googlers feel like this is because they are really seeing reduced productivity, or if there's a different motivation.

Google HR told me “data showed remote doesn’t work” I asked for the data and never got it. I don’t work their anymore

I think you'll be looking for a while if your standards for an employer is that you have arbitrary access to the data they use to make decisions. There are a handful of radically transparent employers out there but it is the vanishing exception, not the rule.

Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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post #4

That's interesting, since my assumption is that Google would be fairly data driven. I'd be curious if Googlers feel like this is because they are really seeing reduced productivity, or if there's a different motivation.

Google HR told me “data showed remote doesn’t work” I asked for the data and never got it. I don’t work their anymore

How do they know it's "remote" and not "working during a pandemic"?

Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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After spending more than a year remote, full remote is difficult ( not impossible ) . Most of us have settled on 3 days at home, 2 days at work, so we can socialize, make new connections or just simply have lunch. Going back to in office 100% is a thing of the past unless you are a team that has to be there - making hardware etc. For ex I cant imagine the Pixel team working 100% remote.

> just simply have lunch. I thought I had to be in an office for this as well then discovered this entire room in my apartment full of mostly unassembled food.

You realize you aren't talking about the same sense of the word?

Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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After spending more than a year remote, full remote is difficult ( not impossible ) . Most of us have settled on 3 days at home, 2 days at work, so we can socialize, make new connections or just simply have lunch. Going back to in office 100% is a thing of the past unless you are a team that has to be there - making hardware etc. For ex I cant imagine the Pixel team working 100% remote.

> just simply have lunch. I thought I had to be in an office for this as well then discovered this entire room in my apartment full of mostly unassembled food.

Does is also have unassembled companions?

Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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post #4

That's interesting, since my assumption is that Google would be fairly data driven. I'd be curious if Googlers feel like this is because they are really seeing reduced productivity, or if there's a different motivation.

"Data driven" is frequently code for "we'll pick metrics that support what we want".

Re: Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on remote work

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post #22

Remote work is terrible for productivity especially if the company was not already remote first. In my employer, we've noticed a 30-40% productivity dip across the board. Not only that, but people are reporting more stress and are working unhealthy hours. Replying to emails at 9pm, etc. The communication breakdowns are constant. Previously you'd absorb information through osmosis, but the watercooler chat about proje…

Are you sure the elevated stress and lowered productivity are due to remote work, and not other environmental factors (i.e., a global pandemic, lockdown, etc.)?
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