My opinion is that they shouldn't care and in fact have no basis to complain. I consider it "work for hire", and they are being paid handsomely for their work. Do we developers complain when, if we work for Apple, that Apple takes credit for our work?
Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for songs they didn't write
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#22I'd argue that the producers/composers are far more important to pop songs today than the writers.
That's beside the point. The performers are starting to demand a portion of the revenue stream that should be going to "people who aren't the performers".
Would there be a revenue stream without the performers?
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#23LMAO why dont they sing themselves? Sorry as it seems the lyrics are nothing without the artist performing it, just letters in your notes.
Why does Google or Microsoft pay coders to write software. Their work is nothing without the big company bringing it all together and the brand?
Are you saying that the song writers should give their work away for free?
The credit is tied to the method the song writers use to be paid for their work. This is coupled to pay. When an artist puts their name on the song lyrics they are taking pay from the people who wrote the lyrics.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's beside the point. The performers are starting to demand a portion of the revenue stream that should be going to "people who aren't the performers".
Would there be a revenue stream without the performers?
No? But the point of the article is that the performers already have their own revenue stream.
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#25LMAO why dont they sing themselves? Sorry as it seems the lyrics are nothing without the artist performing it, just letters in your notes.
Imagine trying to sing lyrics you don't know to a tune you don't know.
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#26This unfortunately has been a long used tactic in the music world. In the old times it was sharpie producers putting their names as writers for songs of poor black artists, so they (the producers) can get royalties in addition to their usual fees. Now it is the singers taking advantage of the songwriters and composers. It is all evil but it kind of shows who has the negotiation leverage. Todays pop music scene is all…
As a huge fan of blackpink I highly recommend you check out the documentary they have on Netflix. It became obvious after watching it that the genius behind blackpink is Teddy Park, who was also behind another massively successful girl group 2NE1.
I've thought about it slightly and without Teddy Park there is no blackpink, but without the individual members each bringing their own flavour to the group, there is no blackpink either.
If you're familiar with the concept art industry, this is essentially just character design but with living people.
We are being fed a story, Katy Perry and Ariana Grande are good examples of this.
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#27Wow I had no idea this was taking place. It reminds me a little of the fight hollywood screenwriters have fought to get equal billing and recognition. I always assumed that the writer got the most money!
You may like this piece! https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/26/the-song-machi...
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#28My opinion is that they shouldn't care and in fact have no basis to complain. I consider it "work for hire", and they are being paid handsomely for their work. Do we developers complain when, if we work for Apple, that Apple takes credit for our work?
> they are being paid handsomely for their work.
I think the complaint is that they aren't being paid "adequately", but without actual numbers it's hard to tell. I suspect few of them are making SV developer salaries.
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#29My opinion is that they shouldn't care and in fact have no basis to complain. I consider it "work for hire", and they are being paid handsomely for their work. Do we developers complain when, if we work for Apple, that Apple takes credit for our work?
no, but maybe we should
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#30My opinion is that they shouldn't care and in fact have no basis to complain. I consider it "work for hire", and they are being paid handsomely for their work. Do we developers complain when, if we work for Apple, that Apple takes credit for our work?
“Other workers are trying to get a better deal than me and should cut it out” is one of my least-favorite opinions on labor matters.