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Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

#21

The idea of it being wrong to have a "my country first" government is a pretty unusual one, because the alternative is having prosperity fleeced by rivals. It's like a tech company saying they aren't going to compete anymore and slowly give away assets while lowering employee salaries. Would love to move beyond nationalism but you simply can't when the world's second largest economy (perhaps first soon) is the most e…

I think there are a few high profile examples where nationalism caused some problems...

Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

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post #19

This glosses over the fact that it’s Biden who has actually executed on a vaccination plan. And he doesn’t fit with the articles overall premise. And Trump is the opposite of what this article is asserting - he’s me first conservative but he didn’t have any plan at all for vaccination, according to news reports.

I am pretty sure this has already been proven wrong. Please give credit where credit is due. If it weren't for operation Warp Speed [1] and the millions of doses bought under the Trump administration, Biden wouldn't have anything to take the credit for [2]. CNN neglected to credit the Trump administration for this. Yes, his (Trump's) handling of the crisis was awful but it doesn't help to lie. [1] https://en.wikipedi…

It's likely quite true that the Biden administration has increased the speed of vaccination, with Warp Speed providing the base they built from. Hard to make a concrete argument about how much difference, but I think the direction is obvious enough.

Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

#23

The idea of it being wrong to have a "my country first" government is a pretty unusual one, because the alternative is having prosperity fleeced by rivals. It's like a tech company saying they aren't going to compete anymore and slowly give away assets while lowering employee salaries. Would love to move beyond nationalism but you simply can't when the world's second largest economy (perhaps first soon) is the most e…

The alternative is cooperation. Do you remember the beginning of the pandemic when US states were in a bidding war over PPE and the US federal government was seizing PPE shipments going to Canada? That went away with better inter-state and state-federal cooperation, not more nationalism (or state-ism or whatever). Why should the procedure that works for US states, Canadian provinces, and EU member states (i.e. distributing doses based on population) not work on a larger scale?

Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's presumably for EU production of the vaccine. So Israel probably didn't really compete with the US for it.

first paragraph: > Israel will pay a premium price for the millions of COVID-19 vaccines it has ordered from US-based pharmaceutical company Pfizer, over 40 percent more than the US government or the European Union, Channel 13 news reported Sunday.

Pfizer has a Covid-19 vaccine production facilities in the EU and is selling the vaccines produced there to countries that aren't the US.

Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

#26
post #21

The idea of it being wrong to have a "my country first" government is a pretty unusual one, because the alternative is having prosperity fleeced by rivals. It's like a tech company saying they aren't going to compete anymore and slowly give away assets while lowering employee salaries. Would love to move beyond nationalism but you simply can't when the world's second largest economy (perhaps first soon) is the most e…

I think there are a few high profile examples where nationalism caused some problems...

... fuelled by appeasement of democracies...

Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

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post #26
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are a few high profile examples where nationalism caused some problems...

... fuelled by appeasement of democracies...

The rise of Hitler was due to the German people, not the democracies that brought Germany back to sanity

Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

#28
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am pretty sure this has already been proven wrong. Please give credit where credit is due. If it weren't for operation Warp Speed [1] and the millions of doses bought under the Trump administration, Biden wouldn't have anything to take the credit for [2]. CNN neglected to credit the Trump administration for this. Yes, his (Trump's) handling of the crisis was awful but it doesn't help to lie. [1] https://en.wikipedi…

It's likely quite true that the Biden administration has increased the speed of vaccination, with Warp Speed providing the base they built from. Hard to make a concrete argument about how much difference, but I think the direction is obvious enough.

Yeah I don't doubt it, I just wanted to straighten out the facts.

Re: Want a Vaccine? Elect a Nationalist

#29
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... fuelled by appeasement of democracies...

The rise of Hitler was due to the German people, not the democracies that brought Germany back to sanity

Democracies missed plenty of chances to bring sanity back at much much lower costs. Be it not intervening at Rhein remilitarisation or Czechoslovakia giveaway
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