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Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by carlosf »

thedevelopnik wrote: post #17
preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

I love Google’s Cloud services. I think in many ways they have the best product. I also worked somewhere where we made a million dollar commit. We had to get support through a VAR because Google basically doesn’t offer support. We basically paid someone else to file tickets that got dismissive responses while we had prod meltdown. They’re also price competitive. I was going to go there again in my current position in…

I'm looking for a managed Knative solution and Google Cloud Run looks like a great product. The only reason I'm not using it is because I also had first hand experience with Google's atrocious customer service in the past.

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by Johnny555 »

thedevelopnik wrote: post #17
preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

I love Google’s Cloud services. I think in many ways they have the best product. I also worked somewhere where we made a million dollar commit. We had to get support through a VAR because Google basically doesn’t offer support. We basically paid someone else to file tickets that got dismissive responses while we had prod meltdown. They’re also price competitive. I was going to go there again in my current position in…

In what ways is Google the best product if you had a prod meltdown and couldn't get support, and when you wanted to increase your use of GCS at another job, you were unable to do so?

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by jiggawatts »

sanatgersappa wrote: post #10
richards wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keeping scrolling! Under GKE (managed Kubernetes), you see the call outs to EKS and AKS, respectively. The Anthos point is that other clouds don't offer their k8s stacks as supported options on other clouds. If you see things you find wrong in the table, let me know. Disclaimer: I work in product management at Google Cloud

um, how about this one? - https://azure.microsoft.com/en-in/services/azure-arc

Does anyone actually use Azure Arc?

Azure Policy to me seems like a tech demo more than a polished product. Even for common tasks such as enabling Diagnostics they just provide some "sample" policies, and then authoring the other 275 distinct policies for each resource type that can be monitored is your problem.

Does anyone have any real-world experience with it?

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by bushbaba »

richards wrote: post #3
count wrote: post #2

"Anthos clusters on AWS" No equivalent alternative. Uh. Really, no Anthos on AWS equivalent on Azure? Or AWS? Boy, they're really missing that managed Kubernetes cluster game. Maybe I'm just dense, having only been doing this cloud thing for a decade or so, but this table seems...misleading or just wrong in so many ways.

Keeping scrolling! Under GKE (managed Kubernetes), you see the call outs to EKS and AKS, respectively. The Anthos point is that other clouds don't offer their k8s stacks as supported options on other clouds. If you see things you find wrong in the table, let me know. Disclaimer: I work in product management at Google Cloud

> other clouds don't offer their k8s stacks as supported options on other clouds.

AWS does have these offerings.

https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-anywhere/

https://aws.amazon.com/eks/eks-distro/

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by foxylad »

preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

We've used Google Appengine for over ten years now. It was the first service to abstract infrastructure, so developers could simply deploy code without worrying about scaling and redundancy.

Google's edge (for us) is reliability. Over our ten-year tenure (heh), there have been a handful of incidents when our service was down, most early on before the NDB datastore. I seriously can't remember how many years it's been since our service was down.

And when Appengine does break, they do a brutally honest report about exactly what happened, and how they are going to make sure it never happens again. If you've got the interest and time, it's worth searching for articles/videos about Google's SREs. They are fanatics.

I know this is anecdotal, but AWS and Azure seem to have multiple outages a year. Every time I'm immensely relieved to be on Appengine.

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by aliyfarah »

preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

Google Cloud is just a pleasure to use. It has by far the best documentation, the best user interface, the best CLIs (gcloud etc) and tooling, and they have the most accessible teams of any of the other cloud providers. I remember having an issue with firebase authentication a while back, I posted a question on stackoverflow and a firebase team member had answered it within a few hours. Good luck getting any help with AWS Amplify when you encounter any bugs/issues.

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by jeppesen-io »

preommr wrote: post #12

Competition is always better and welcomed. But I really don't understand what edge google offers other products. If anything, I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia.…

> I am always really wary about google and their products. People might say that enterprise services are different, and it's different from free services where if you're not paying you can't expect anything, but there's been paid services by google that have been absolutely terrible like stadia

GCP is a major player in the cloud space. Number 3 last I looked. I fail to see how that compares to Stadia, an expensive experiment that may or may not succeed. Do we judge AWS on Amazon Prime Video's mediocre service? I sure hope not. Let's be clear - GPC is not an experiment. It has massive capital backing

> At the very least the marketing for gcp could make it clearer what exactly it's offering that's better: price, ease of management, etc.

Okay, but you (I assume) can read beyond marketing. Marketing should not influence your decision (very much)

> Because nobody is going to get fired for choosing AWS so there has to be a real clear incentive other than some small technical improvements that don't matter at scale.

I don't use GCP but there are many clear advantages. If those do not help your biz case, fine, move on. But if you can't see the advantages, read more

Re: Compare AWS and Azure Services to Google Cloud

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Post by ncallaway »

Johnny555 wrote: post #22
thedevelopnik wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Google’s Cloud services. I think in many ways they have the best product. I also worked somewhere where we made a million dollar commit. We had to get support through a VAR because Google basically doesn’t offer support. We basically paid someone else to file tickets that got dismissive responses while we had prod meltdown. They’re also price competitive. I was going to go there again in my current position in…

In what ways is Google the best product if you had a prod meltdown and couldn't get support, and when you wanted to increase your use of GCS at another job, you were unable to do so?

> In what ways is Google the best product

> I think in many ways they have the best product.

They didn't say that Google had the best product. They said that in many categories, it was the best. That doesn't mean it's the overall best product. In fact, from their post it seems pretty clear that they ended up deciding that Google Cloud wasn't the overall best product.

> if you had a prod meltdown and couldn't get support

Presumably, they were implying that customer support _wasn't_ one of those many ways.

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