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Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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I guess everything helps, but we put so much effort into the problems with easy solutions, that could be invested into the difficult stuff. Livestock contributes to 15% of all greenhouse gasses. But the solution is easy, cheap, and only midly inconvenient. Going vegan. This has the added benefit of protecting threatened ecosystems in the rainforrest and seas. We could then spend that energy on the difficult stuff. Fa…

The solution is easy, cheap, and only mildly inconvenient. Feed cattle some seaweed.

The seaweeed is not a full on substitute for the refular feed.

You still have the climate, land, and water impact of the majority of the feed.

You're also stil stuck with the huge water requirements, antibiotic resistence, disease, and animal cruelty.

You're advocating for a reduction of at most 50% of the harmfull effects. But going 100% is trivial, so why not do it?

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

#23
post #6

I guess everything helps, but we put so much effort into the problems with easy solutions, that could be invested into the difficult stuff. Livestock contributes to 15% of all greenhouse gasses. But the solution is easy, cheap, and only midly inconvenient. Going vegan. This has the added benefit of protecting threatened ecosystems in the rainforrest and seas. We could then spend that energy on the difficult stuff. Fa…

The world is not going to go vegan. Humans eat meat. No greenhouse argument will ever change this. This is worthwhile research, as is cultured meat and other options. Evolving the tech of raising and cultivating animal protein to eat is important work.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

#24
post #6

I guess everything helps, but we put so much effort into the problems with easy solutions, that could be invested into the difficult stuff. Livestock contributes to 15% of all greenhouse gasses. But the solution is easy, cheap, and only midly inconvenient. Going vegan. This has the added benefit of protecting threatened ecosystems in the rainforrest and seas. We could then spend that energy on the difficult stuff. Fa…

I think it's really interesting that you view changing the eating habits of millions of people "easy".

We've known and broadly accepted that smoking is bad since 1964[1]. Yet new people start smoking every year. Even in countries where packaging displays disgusting pictures showing the long term results of smoking.

To me it seems unlikely that relevant parts of the world will become vegan in the short term, or that cattle farmers will pivot to something else. But I do often see that "green" initiatives that also save companies money are adopted quickly. Not all farmers may care about emissions, but needing less feed (and thus saving money) seems like an easy win. Hopefully all these small gains will add up.

[1] - https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/sgr/history/inde...

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

#25
post #6

I guess everything helps, but we put so much effort into the problems with easy solutions, that could be invested into the difficult stuff. Livestock contributes to 15% of all greenhouse gasses. But the solution is easy, cheap, and only midly inconvenient. Going vegan. This has the added benefit of protecting threatened ecosystems in the rainforrest and seas. We could then spend that energy on the difficult stuff. Fa…

The world is not going to go vegan. Humans eat meat. No greenhouse argument will ever change this. This is worthwhile research, as is cultured meat and other options. Evolving the tech of raising and cultivating animal protein to eat is important work.

Habe you tried the latest substitutes? Artificial chicken based on pea proteins has become virtually indistinguishable from real chicken.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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"Transportation of the processed or unprocessed seaweed should be kept to a minimum, so cultivation in the region of use is recommended specially to avoid long-haul shipping." "Asparagopsis taxiformis, (red sea plume or limu kohu) formerly A. sanfordiana, is a species of red algae, with cosmopolitan distribution in tropical to warm temperate waters."[0] This seems to be a pretty big hurdle to overcome. Either all the…

Shipping by electrified rail is one option. Efficient and potentially 100% clean.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

#27
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution is easy, cheap, and only mildly inconvenient. Feed cattle some seaweed.

The seaweeed is not a full on substitute for the refular feed. You still have the climate, land, and water impact of the majority of the feed. You're also stil stuck with the huge water requirements, antibiotic resistence, disease, and animal cruelty. You're advocating for a reduction of at most 50% of the harmfull effects. But going 100% is trivial, so why not do it?

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Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

#28

"Transportation of the processed or unprocessed seaweed should be kept to a minimum, so cultivation in the region of use is recommended specially to avoid long-haul shipping." "Asparagopsis taxiformis, (red sea plume or limu kohu) formerly A. sanfordiana, is a species of red algae, with cosmopolitan distribution in tropical to warm temperate waters."[0] This seems to be a pretty big hurdle to overcome. Either all the…

Or, just ship the seaweed. There is no reason to "keep it to a minimum", shipping things takes far less energy than people like to imagine.

You'll end up spending FAR more energy cultivating it in lots of small locales.

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

#29
post #6

I guess everything helps, but we put so much effort into the problems with easy solutions, that could be invested into the difficult stuff. Livestock contributes to 15% of all greenhouse gasses. But the solution is easy, cheap, and only midly inconvenient. Going vegan. This has the added benefit of protecting threatened ecosystems in the rainforrest and seas. We could then spend that energy on the difficult stuff. Fa…

eating less meat is a good idea, but why go to zero? how about eat beef up to once a week or smth like that? i think making a point more extreme than necessary motivates people to disagree with you

Why not go to zero?

It's a bit like saying: "Reducing the amount of fossil fuel is a good idea, but why go to zero?"

Re: Red seaweed supplementation reduces enteric methane by over 80% in beef steers

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"Transportation of the processed or unprocessed seaweed should be kept to a minimum, so cultivation in the region of use is recommended specially to avoid long-haul shipping." "Asparagopsis taxiformis, (red sea plume or limu kohu) formerly A. sanfordiana, is a species of red algae, with cosmopolitan distribution in tropical to warm temperate waters."[0] This seems to be a pretty big hurdle to overcome. Either all the…

Shipping by electrified rail is one option. Efficient and potentially 100% clean.

Where are you getting the electricity to power the rail?
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