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Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by wojciii »

ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> There's a reason why we have never seen a world leading tech company come out from anywhere except the US.

A few examples:

Nokia (the sleeping giant will awaken again :))

Nordic Semiconductor

The Qt Company

Unity Technologies

I might be influenced by living in Scandinavia. :)

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by busterarm »

gxs wrote: post #7
ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

I agree, but never say never. The Chinese will for sure have their own version of Silicon Valley and their giants will rival ours, no doubt. I think there will be other critical centers of tech innovation, similar to how Hollywood is Hollywood but NYC has an industry as well.

Also it's very much worth nothing that Silicon Valley no longer has the monopoly on talent that it once had. In fact in some of the more important development areas now, it's shifted to places like Boston or elsewhere.

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by ping_pong »

onethought wrote: post #11
ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> the best the world could do is China which just stole US ideas and then built a firewall to keep others out. So where was WeChat and ubiquitous QR codes for everything stolen from? Silicon Valley still haven't figured out how to do Ubiquitous contactless payment... it's like going back in time every time I travel there, and I have to swipe a credit card and sign with a pen. Or Taiwan's COVID/PPE Supply tracking sys…

QR codes are Japanese not Chinese.

Contactless payment systems are everywhere now, the big push being COVID.

Taiwan isn't China, any Taiwanese will tell you that. Taiwan did a lot of things right when it came to the COVID response, but it's easy to do when you have a population of 23 million on a tiny island. I have several friends who are living in Taiwan and I've been jealous of them throughout the pandemic because their government handled it correctly. However, the US vaccination response is the best in the world. Even I have been vaccinated.

Silicon Valley isn't dying. It's literally the biggest creator of wealth in the world, and it's so much that it's causing a horrible amount of income inequality, especially in the Bay Area itself. It's almost being a victim of its own success, as I already mentioned.

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by mempko »

Overall this is a really good piece. O'Reilly is wrong that the world was unprepared. South east Asia was prepared and handled it Amazingly. It's not just communist governments that did well, New Zealand and Australia did well too.

However, the western world was unprepared and despite being rich, failed it's people... Especially the USA and UK.

O'Reilly is right that we need to switch gears and solve climate change instead of more social media ad tech development. And he may be right the skills needed are elsewhere.

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> Silicon Valley will never die.

Over what time period? It’s absurd to say this and mean forever, if you have ever opened a history book. Even America itself will pass out of dominance, as all superpowers have. Rome, Britain, etc. Change is the rule, not the exception. It is the natural way.

https://marketcap.com.au/history-world-reserve-currencies/

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by hu3 »

wojciii wrote: post #21
ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> There's a reason why we have never seen a world leading tech company come out from anywhere except the US. A few examples: Nokia (the sleeping giant will awaken again :)) Nordic Semiconductor The Qt Company Unity Technologies I might be influenced by living in Scandinavia. :)

TSMC

ASML

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by throw-away_42 »

EGreg wrote: post #9

Until 1988, California was ruled largely by Republicans. Since 1988, it gradually cane to be ruled more by Democrats, with the notable exception of the "moderate" Republican governor Schwartzenegger. https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-california-voting... In both eras, its GDP and population went up, until it became the 5th or 4th largest economy in the world. A bit of mean reversion occurs, after massive spi…

Perhaps you're thinking of some other state?

https://governors.library.ca.gov/36-wilson.html

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by busterarm »

wojciii wrote: post #21
ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

> There's a reason why we have never seen a world leading tech company come out from anywhere except the US. A few examples: Nokia (the sleeping giant will awaken again :)) Nordic Semiconductor The Qt Company Unity Technologies I might be influenced by living in Scandinavia. :)

> Nokia (the sleeping giant will awaken again :))

There is a nice little scene of companies in Espoo filled with some incredibily talented technologists who all got their start at Nokia.

Even if Nokia itself doesn't return, I expect at least one or two major technology developments out of there. I have my eye on ICEYE and have even thought of maybe working there.

Re: Other challenges to SV’s preeminence are more fundamental than the tech diaspora

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Post by [deleted] »

ping_pong wrote: post #5

Im so tired of random writers, even if it's O'Reilly himself, trying to predict that Silicon Valley is doomed. That's like saying Hollywood is doomed, or Wall Street is doomed. I've been around long enough to know that nothing will unseat Silicon Valley as the tech capital of the world. Silicon Valley has the critical mass of talent, VC money and greed that can't be replicated anywhere else in the world. There's a re…

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