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Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by dsun180 » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

sunaurus wrote: post #4

I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

Same here in germany. When we hear the word master, most people think of the master in karate kid or the master degree of a university. I think only in the usa people are so full of hate that they directly think of bad stuff.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by phnofive » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

It’s the politician’s syllogism -with the added benefit of the ‘something’ being effectively free (no new headcount), though all the more visible by virtue of it being an annoying find and replace exercise all the line engineers get to participate in.

Read to the end, and the author suggests SWE apprenticeships - I support the idea, but by contrast, it isn’t free, and would require some actual effort by line managers, so...

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by CaptainJustin » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

sunaurus wrote: post #4

I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

I know it's anecdotal but I've asked my colleagues the same - in a country with a terrible history of this sort too. And turns out I can't find a single person who agrees with Github's decision.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by jpm48 » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

This explains my WTF moment when teaching a class full of students to push to the github classroom using push -u origin master and it being rejected and having to use main!

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by nailer » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

hackwith wrote: post #8

I like main better

It’s shorter, but it’s a change. If it was main historically it’d be annoying to change it to master now.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by Obsnold » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

dijit wrote: post #15

it should be noted that git (the binary) is also in the process of deprecating `master`. This is the message I get on my machine when running git init: hint: Using 'master' as the name for the initial branch. This default branch name hint: is subject to change. To configure the initial branch name to use in all hint: of your new repositories, which will suppress this warning, call: hint: hint: git config --global ini…

I just tested this and don't get any message.

What version are you using?

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by PurpleFoxy » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

SeriousM wrote: post #7

That's exactly what I think about that topic. Master branch is the master record. Nothing more or less.

Especially since there is no such thing as a slave branch.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by sergiotapia » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

lcrz wrote: post #9

I just want to add a link to this[0] post here as a counterpoint for why changing language _can_ matter. The author seems to imply that the name change is all about being non-offensive to some people. Since the author doesn't find the language offensive, they conclude that name change is only political correctness or virtue signalling and a hollow gesture. I do not agree with that. Language and words are very powerfu…

Frankly this is the opinion of a white guy, why should latino and black people care about his perception of "racially charged words" like `master`?

This is like some dude from Vermont telling me I should use latinx as it's more inclusive -- linguistic colonization eh

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by erk__ » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

vletal wrote: post #13

Anyone else here whose script actually broke due to this change?

Would scripts not already have broken on repos using non-default names?

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by thecopy » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

sunaurus wrote: post #4

I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

>We need to keep voicing these thoughts so that decision-makers in large companies have a chance to hear us and realize that they should focus on more useful issues instead.

I suppose they are not doing it for your feeling's sake. They are doing it to avoid being a target of a woke mob feigning offense for their own ideological gain in the on-going identity culture war which is happening in the west.