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Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by hugh4life »

kenjackson wrote: post #5

After a few minutes on the internets I discovered a little gem of a thread: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/26404-Windows-8-(79... In this thread you'll see much more clearly what MS is planning. It's not just HTML/JS for these immersive apps. Rather it appears that the CLR will become a first class part of Windows. If you are a Windows dev or are interested in Windows dev, this is a must read thread. In fac…

I read that a couple days ago and here are the two most interesting posts...

Microsoft's own immersive html application is just a thin layer over native code

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/26404-Windows-8-(79...

.NET Ahead-Of-Time compiler is probably coming

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/26404-Windows-8-(79...

[EDIT]

And for those worried Silverlight developers, scan that thread for DirectUI.

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by nxn »

"But one aspect of the demonstration has the legions of Windows developers deeply concerned, and with good reason: they were told that all their experience, all their knowledge, and every program they have written in the past would be useless on Windows 8."

I stopped reading there. It's amazing that spreading unfounded trash like this can be called news. All this is is an attempt to twist and stretch the truth in hopes of provoking a reaction and attention -- simply pathetic.

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by Tichy »

On the upside, you can now become a Microsoft Certified JavaScript developer (I suppose).

Who knows, all those poor Microserfs might feel liberated in the end, when they get to use a technology that has not been designed to fuel the consulting business - needlessly complex and bloated, that is.

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by gamble »

I doubt this is going to be an issue in the long run, because I don't expect this next iteration of Microsoft's "tablets that are really notebooks running a mix of tablet apps and standard Windows applications" is going to be any more successful than its predecessors. Assuming this sees the light of day, it will be at least a year before Win8 tablets are available - just in time to compete with the iPad 3 and Android 4.x+.

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by X-Istence »

tjogin wrote: post #20
X-Istence wrote: post #9

At this point you know it is a non-issue because Arstechnica is covering it about six weeks too late[1]. I have talked to many different developers and every one of them that is developing in C# and .NET are not worried at all. Main reason? This stuff is not really going to fly well within the corporate world, corporations still need their custom built applications (using older source bases most of the time), they st…

I think you're right. But the consequence of that is, of course, that the touch driven "immersive" part is only going to be skin deep. Which in turn means that Windows 8 is going to fail spectacularly on tablets, for the exact same reasons every previous Windows tablet failed.

MSFT has to realise that eventually for the good of the company they WILL have to do something to cut part of their love-child windows out of something. They are unwilling to sacrifice Windows, even a small part of it, for the greater good. That is why MSFT will once again release a product that is not fit for tablet PC's.

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by contextfree »

tjogin wrote: post #20
X-Istence wrote: post #9

At this point you know it is a non-issue because Arstechnica is covering it about six weeks too late[1]. I have talked to many different developers and every one of them that is developing in C# and .NET are not worried at all. Main reason? This stuff is not really going to fly well within the corporate world, corporations still need their custom built applications (using older source bases most of the time), they st…

I think you're right. But the consequence of that is, of course, that the touch driven "immersive" part is only going to be skin deep. Which in turn means that Windows 8 is going to fail spectacularly on tablets, for the exact same reasons every previous Windows tablet failed.

consumer != corporate

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by ElliotH »

nigelsampson wrote: post #4
powertower wrote: post #2

Windows 8 is giving developers one more option: In tablet mode you can write the UI part of the application (the widget) in HTML5 and JS. Author's profile: (Microsoft Contributor) "Peter Bright dropped out of university (after about five minutes) to work as a software developer writing C++ and C#." After reading that article I propose that he must have also spent another 5 minutes programming before deciding on his n…

This seems the most likely option in my opinion. A lot of panic and scaremongering based off a few snippets. I imagine we'll see other ways to build into the tablet UI apart from html5/js.

Read the article to the end. It says almost exactly this.

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by ericflo »

johns wrote: post #14
powertower wrote: post #2

Windows 8 is giving developers one more option: In tablet mode you can write the UI part of the application (the widget) in HTML5 and JS. Author's profile: (Microsoft Contributor) "Peter Bright dropped out of university (after about five minutes) to work as a software developer writing C++ and C#." After reading that article I propose that he must have also spent another 5 minutes programming before deciding on his n…

Do you know that as fact or are you speculating?

Rampant speculation is exactly what the author of the article is doing, I don't see why it can't go both ways :)

Re: Why Microsoft has made developers horrified about coding for Windows 8

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Post by dorian-graph »

kenjackson wrote: post #5

After a few minutes on the internets I discovered a little gem of a thread: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/26404-Windows-8-(79... In this thread you'll see much more clearly what MS is planning. It's not just HTML/JS for these immersive apps. Rather it appears that the CLR will become a first class part of Windows. If you are a Windows dev or are interested in Windows dev, this is a must read thread. In fac…

http://www.winrumors.com/silverlight-isnt-dead-its-the-heart...

There is another article too in relation to this. Also, Mary Jo Foley and others have posted 'information' about Jupiter and whatnot.

It seems people are quickly taking advantage of this 'outrage' on the internets for some 'good' news stories.

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