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The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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I loved the Nokia N900's design, that hardware keyboard that made it so easy to do remote system administration over SSH, or keep doing everything that I want to do in Emacs just like on my laptop or desktop computers. Also like all Nokia phones of the time, it was nearly indestructible and could easily survive drops that would destroy a modern smartphone’s screen or casing. However, in retrospect not all was rosy. A…

I'm running 5.11 on it though.

Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I had the opportunity to use the N900. I still have a partially working N9 (the SIM holder lock is broken meaning I have to hold the SIM in to use it for calls). I still browse and post on HN using it on occasion.

> the SIM holder lock is broken meaning I have to hold the SIM in to use it for calls Why not just tape it in place?

There's a spring mechanism that pushes it out. It worked by pressing in to lock it and then pressing in again to unlock it. The cover is recessed relative to the case, so it would be a bit difficult to secure it with tape unfortunately.

Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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I have both an N900 and a Pro1 and it's everything I wanted in a phone/device. I'm using self-compiled LineageOS on it right now and it is as "Linux-y" as I need and want, complete with a usable terminal and SSH apps. I'm not sure why you haven't been able to get a review unit of the new Pro1-x model, but I'll get in contact with someone at f(x)tec for you.

One thing from the N900 that I really miss on the Pro1 is the ability to multi-boot different operating systems. I think at one point I had five OS's running on my N900, mostly off of various microSD cards - Maemo, Android, Meego, SHR and Plasma Mobile. For the Pro1 I'd settle for being able to dual-boot Sailfish and LineageOS, but as it is now you need to pick one or the other.

Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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Still have this little linux phone. It missed compass hw, so map experience was not great and also resistive display was inferior to iPhone, but still loved it. It's bad Nokia didn't manage it create viable platform, but rather switched to Windows phones and also died there with broken teeth.

One nice thing about the resistive screen is that it's pressure-sensitive. This was particularly great for painting apps - I remember using one called MyPaint which mapped touch pressure to the intensity of your brush stroke, which let me draw things that just weren't possible on iPhones of the time.

Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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post #6

A family friend worked as an outside something at Nokia HQ around 2007(?) when the iPhone was announced. Apparently there was an ongoing joke inside of the company that every button on these phones was one of the executives. And so you had multiple buttons/ways of doing one thing because consensus. Sounds like they were just bogged down and crippled in a corporate way that so many European companies were between 1990…

Largely the same thing happened at Blackberry. Because the iPhone was an AT&T exclusive in the US, Verizon pressured Blackberry to rush the release of their first touchscreen device, the BB Storm. It was released as a Verizon exclusive in late 2008, and coincided with the release of HTC/Tmobile G1, the first Android phone. BB tried to argue that BBOS6 was a click trackball based OS and would not transition to touch w…

Verizon was pretty hilarious with denial early on. I recall them coming to talk about what a piece of garbage the iPhone was to our CIO, and how BlackBerry would bury them, etc.

Then the CIO pulls out his iPhone and demos it. Lol. One of the reps flipped to AT&T a few weeks later.

It’s really a shame actually, the BB was a great device and had an unbeatable security model for enterprises for a long time. iPhone is just a magical product.

Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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I loved the Nokia N900's design, that hardware keyboard that made it so easy to do remote system administration over SSH, or keep doing everything that I want to do in Emacs just like on my laptop or desktop computers. Also like all Nokia phones of the time, it was nearly indestructible and could easily survive drops that would destroy a modern smartphone’s screen or casing. However, in retrospect not all was rosy. A…

I'm running 5.11 on it though.

from my experience porting cyanogenMOD from android phones that only received 2.3 officially all the way up to 4+, you are likely running the binary kernel drivers as binary blobs for 2.6 and some kid in a forum either flipped bits at random while following a asm tutorial or wrapped it in a syscall shell that emulates an old kernel to the driver.

or maybe the n900 had less esoteric peripherals than android phones. I don't know... as I never got my hands on one despite actively trying to buy one for a couple years when they were announced.

Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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There's a pmOS effort to make the N900 hardware usable with modern kernel:

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Nokia_N900_(nokia-n900)

There was also a project to replace the hardware:

https://neo900.org/

When trying out various Linux handheld options before pmOS, I wasn't able to get N900 hardware at a good price, but I did get a few N810 units. Then I was dismayed to find that a lot of the once-public open source and tools for N810 had simply been removed from the Internet. That kind of thing is another reason to support efforts like pmOS.

Re: The Nokia N900: the future that wasn’t

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This was a neat phone to have during it's time, but I remember having it for a while and the killer app that came out months after I got the phone was MMS. The engineers at Nokia just couldn't figure it out but someone hacked on it long enough to enable it. Fairly certain they flew the guy out and offered him a job.
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