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Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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I don't know the fate of Fitbit, although I can guess, but the fate of Samsung's anything connected with Tizen is pure DOOM.

Why does Tizen spell DOOM? It is a huge C system that traffics exclusively in pointers to void. Yes: it is full of typedefs to void*. Do you need to know anything else?

So, in whichever way Google flubs Fitbit, at least Samsung is out of their way.

My question is, what has gone so very, very wrong at Samsung as to have led them to pick up Tizen?

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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post #15

What a weird hit piece. The counterpoints are... legion. Youtube? Doubleclick? Android?

I'm not sure that phrase fits with your examples. Google has some products it has purchased that are doing well. But... Only a small number compared to the things they have purchased that they killed. Such that the legion is likely on the other side. Now, they have some behemoths that they bought. The general feeling I get, is if a product I have bought had the parent company change hands, I can expect greatly dimini…

Google has earned far more on the small number of successes than lost on the large number of failures.

Edit: I know my comments aren’t always great, bit can someone please confirm that I’m not shadow banned?

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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post #10

I opened the article expecting to agree with it, then I got to the part about "does anyone use google flights instead of travelocity " and started to wonder if it was satire.

In 2019, I'd argue that was true.

I've used Google flights since it was that other company they bought

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

#24

To me, Google seems like a company completely run by engineers, and perhaps these techies in their silos compete so much, that they do want to "integrate" their stuff with broader teams. Like say, Waze team does not want it's features integrated into GMaps. How else is there so little order? A complete opposite of Apple it seems.

Google is very much a company run by PMs. It's just the PMs are rewarded for launching products, and not maintaining them. In other words, the larger the Google graveyard, the more bonuses are being handed out. People are doing what they're being incentivized to do. Google's culture is fundamentally broken. I don't think it's possible for them to fix this. I'll probably take a short position on Google in the medium f…

Eh, I'd hold on that short position for now.

To me the real question is: what will come of these antitrust investigations into their targeted ad business?

That's the cash cow upon which their stock price is ultimately based. They've been able to get away with a lot of failures because ultimately advertising is such a huge business for them.

But if there's any move to break apart that business or regulate it in a way to create more competition in the market, to me that could be the thing that could start to undermine their share price.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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post #5

I'd love to know the internal strategy, assuming there is any. Because my first question before allowing a FitBit acquisition would be, "how do I know you're not just going to soon abandon your new toy, as was done with WearOS?" I mean, Google had a serviceable OS, that they just seem to have given up on.

It seems to me like their goal with FitBit is data acquisition. They already have a massive amount of location and purchase information from millions if not billions of people around the planet from Android, Google Search, and YouTube. If they can get information on health status too, they can probably further improve their advertising system to improve ad relevancy. They can use that information to make targeted investments. Plus that data would be worth an incredible amount to insurers and three-letter security agencies.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

#27

I opened the article expecting to agree with it, then I got to the part about "does anyone use google flights instead of travelocity " and started to wonder if it was satire.

> does anyone use google flights instead of travelocity

Yes, absolutely. I don't even know what Travelocity is :)

What surprises me is that people still use Expedia.

Agreed, this is probably satire.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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post #27

I opened the article expecting to agree with it, then I got to the part about "does anyone use google flights instead of travelocity " and started to wonder if it was satire.

> does anyone use google flights instead of travelocity Yes, absolutely. I don't even know what Travelocity is :) What surprises me is that people still use Expedia. Agreed, this is probably satire.

Why wouldn't people use Expedia? Honest question. I don't use it a lot; I usually book air and hotel direct. I do use other services as well on occasion but Expedia can be useful for discovery if nothing else.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

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post #5

I'd love to know the internal strategy, assuming there is any. Because my first question before allowing a FitBit acquisition would be, "how do I know you're not just going to soon abandon your new toy, as was done with WearOS?" I mean, Google had a serviceable OS, that they just seem to have given up on.

It seems to me like their goal with FitBit is data acquisition. They already have a massive amount of location and purchase information from millions if not billions of people around the planet from Android, Google Search, and YouTube. If they can get information on health status too, they can probably further improve their advertising system to improve ad relevancy. They can use that information to make targeted inv…

Even if Google were to actually sell data (which they don‘t and never have. Selling targeting is way more profitable). They straight up legally couldn’t with health data because of regulation like HIPAA.

Re: Fitbit is doomed: Here's why everything Google buys turns to garbage (2019)

#30

What a weird hit piece. The counterpoints are... legion. Youtube? Doubleclick? Android?

youtube has perhaps an even bigger malinformation problem than most social media. doubleclick was purely an anticompetitive acquisition, and was never a net positive for the internet anyway. and they are doing their best to wall in and destroy all the things that made android a good choice over ios, while falling behind in all the areas ios is advancing.
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