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Report: Apple Orders 380K Sandy Bridge MacBook Airs

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Re: Report: Apple Orders 380K Sandy Bridge MacBook Airs

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As a longtime user of Dell Latitudes and HP Pavilions, I promise you that the MBAir will blow you away. I always pooh poohed "Light and Thin" - until I had a light and thin laptop, with SSDs, and a 1440x900 13.3" display, with Terminal.App (which is 50%+ of the reason I love OS X) and insanely addictive (and useful) touch pad). The only major downside of the MBAir is that it is so competitive a form factor for an iPa…

The touchpad on my Mac laptops are the reason I'll never buy another non-Mac laptop again. Best tactile surface I've ever felt.

I agree. I won't even consider a Windows laptop because of this.

Though it is a shame that Apple has a gimped touchpad driver in Windows. The touchpad in OS X and Windows isn't even comparable.

Re: Report: Apple Orders 380K Sandy Bridge MacBook Airs

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I am genuinely intrigued by the MBA, but I can't seem to get my head around getting that instead of a MBP 13" (I would be getting a MBA 13", 11" is too small for me). Aside from weight, which isn't a real concern for me in a MBP 13", if I decked out a MBP 13" w/ an SSD, is there a compelling reason to still go with an MBA? One of my main concerns is that the MBA can only go to 4GB of ram while the MBP can theoretical…

I have an older MBP, so I don't know if it's still an issue, but they get SO FUCKING HOT.

MBA's stay icy cold.

Re: Report: Apple Orders 380K Sandy Bridge MacBook Airs

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I am genuinely intrigued by the MBA, but I can't seem to get my head around getting that instead of a MBP 13" (I would be getting a MBA 13", 11" is too small for me). Aside from weight, which isn't a real concern for me in a MBP 13", if I decked out a MBP 13" w/ an SSD, is there a compelling reason to still go with an MBA? One of my main concerns is that the MBA can only go to 4GB of ram while the MBP can theoretical…

Currently some differentiators between the 13" air and 13" mbp:

* size

* weight

* screen resolution

* nvidia graphics in the air supposedly perform better than the intel graphics in the mbp

* air uses core2duo, pro uses corei5/i7 (would change with hardware refresh)

* i have heard (unsubstantiated) that the mbp can get fairly hot, while the air seems to remain a bit cooler.

* hard drive and ram are user replaceable on the mbp. not so in the air.

* air comes with onboard ssd (default build). mbp does not (upgradeable)

* mbp has firewire, thunderbolt, sdxc reader, superdrive, backlit keyboard

If (when) the air does get a hardware refresh to include the i5/i7 series processors, I do wonder where that leaves the 13" mbp model.

From a market segmentation standpoint, I don't see why two models that are so very similar continue to be offered. I can see why they still offer the non-pro 13" macbook (low end / entry level), and the larger pro models, but the 13" air and the 13" pro offer a potentially confusing choice to customers, and I would think this is a bad thing -- the "i can't decide so I will get neither" syndrome. Perhaps apple is waiting until they get thunderbolt onto the air before killing off the 13" pro.

In addition to segmentation, I would think it is advantageous to apple to prefer 'sealed' machines like the air, ipad, iphone, ipod, etc. These sealed machines put you on a faster upgrade cycle, because you have to refresh to replace or upgrade the ram/hard-drive. I would think this forced early upgrade cycle, along with the lean towards more utility computing, would move apple in this direction.

I am sure apple has historical metrics to support their offerings though, having had similar models offered in the past. So I am probably just 'talking out my ass' on the market segmentation issue....

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Re: Report: Apple Orders 380K Sandy Bridge MacBook Airs

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These things keep getting harder to resist, and I'm a Windows user. Can anyone tell me if it's true that Windows on boot camp doesn't take advantage of all of the power saving features, and so doesn't last as long? And if so, how big is the difference?

You lose so much running Windows via bootcamp that I don't bother anymore and just use VMware fusion. Only having access to the nvidia graphics makes the laptop too damn hot & drains more battery. Having to manually dink around with the fans is annoying as well. The deal breaker is the gimped functionality of the trackpad.

With the i5/i7 processor and 8 gigs of ram, I haven't noticed a large difference in performance between running windows in bootcamp vs the VM. This was not the case on my old core 2 duo macbook. I only use windows on my laptop for development work though, if you are looking to run windows for games, obviously the performance won't be the same in a VM.

Re: Report: Apple Orders 380K Sandy Bridge MacBook Airs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#Other_details Sounds like quite a big turn off, I wonder how bad this will be in practice

Why? I don't mind Netflix securing their content that they deliver to my device. It doesn't force me to use it by any means. As for the "vPro" technology, that has been available in many modern Intel computers and is obviously only used if intentionally utilized by a corporate IT environment. I don't see anything there that would prevent me from easily choose Sandy Bridge, despite not really liking the idea of DRM. I…

"Why? I don't mind Netflix securing their content that they deliver to my device."

DRM is like those websites which forbid you from right clicking on a picture, and incidentally break tabbed browsing. It's a stupid idea in principle to give someone else control over my computer so they can forbid me from doing something.

I understand why they want it, I don't understand why I want it.

Consider the present: text arrives on your computer, you can copy it, paste it, edit it. Unless you have Microsoft Office DRM modules, then the document author decides what you can do with it and to whom you can email it. Consider the future: Every email, document, website, video stream becomes an extension of the sender or author and your computer is reduced to a dumb view-only device.

Also, there's the argument that the current state is (people who pay, who are hassled by DRM) and (people who don't pay, who avoid the DRM hassles).Criminals get the better experience, people who pay get things they practically can't backup and use on other devices or sample to quote, even in jurisdictions where they have those rights.

Re: Report: Apple Orders 380K Sandy Bridge MacBook Airs

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I am genuinely intrigued by the MBA, but I can't seem to get my head around getting that instead of a MBP 13" (I would be getting a MBA 13", 11" is too small for me). Aside from weight, which isn't a real concern for me in a MBP 13", if I decked out a MBP 13" w/ an SSD, is there a compelling reason to still go with an MBA? One of my main concerns is that the MBA can only go to 4GB of ram while the MBP can theoretical…

my main machine is a 4gb 13" MBA, I do heavy web development with music playing and photoshop open all day long, along with skype, and the thing never skips a beat. 6 hours of battery even after 9 months, weighs less than 3 pounds. It's the best computer I've ever owned. And it's my first Mac, I'm not much of a fanboy.

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