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How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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The demo site is in German; a language selector is not obviously findable. It’s also excruciatingly slow to load! “Let the software speak for itself” - well, it did - if I were evaluating invoicing software I’d go look elsewhere mainly based on this very poor first impression. Could certainly use some optimization / speed up.

You might need to consider that she didn't intend for HN volumes of traffic. Also, it loaded fine for me.

Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article doesn't mention GPL. It's unlikely that this code is GPL-licensed. Moreover, yeah, probably the customer can modify the code, but can they resell it or share it with someone else for free? If not, it's not open source. From "The Open Source Definition"[1]: > The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing pro…

I'm sure I've spend less time downloading the zip, opening it, and seeing a "agpl.txt" file than you did writting that comment.

I don't see a link to it in the article. I've only noticed where it is after another commenter linked to it.

Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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Please correct me if I'm wrong but this is not how I understand the meaning of "open source software". It sounds rather like customers get source access. Do they have the right to sell the source code or re-release it in any way by following an open source license? ( https://opensource.org/licenses ) P.S. I'm not criticizing your business model or anyone elses.

> Please correct me if I'm wrong but this is not how I understand the meaning of "open source software".

So you've made the assumption that it's distributed under a source access only license, but instead of verifying that assumption, you're asking others to correct the conclusions you draw from it.

Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I can tell it is AGPL licensed PHP code, you can download the code, run it, and modify/fork it freely. Code is open source, but it is not developed in the open.

The article doesn't mention GPL. It's unlikely that this code is GPL-licensed. Moreover, yeah, probably the customer can modify the code, but can they resell it or share it with someone else for free? If not, it's not open source. From "The Open Source Definition"[1]: > The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing pro…

It says open source in the title.

Turns out it is open source.

"Interesting"

Like... why did you expect it to not be open source

Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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The demo site is in German; a language selector is not obviously findable. It’s also excruciatingly slow to load! “Let the software speak for itself” - well, it did - if I were evaluating invoicing software I’d go look elsewhere mainly based on this very poor first impression. Could certainly use some optimization / speed up.

> The demo site is in German The target market is probably Germany. The post mentions amount of money in euros, but never other currencies used in English-speaking countries. It make sense to not internationalize the website if the product doesn’t fit the international market (I bet invoices have different legal requirements everywhere).

German speaking market is big enough and rich enough to solely focus on it+less competition compared to English speaking countries.

Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

#27

Please correct me if I'm wrong but this is not how I understand the meaning of "open source software". It sounds rather like customers get source access. Do they have the right to sell the source code or re-release it in any way by following an open source license? ( https://opensource.org/licenses ) P.S. I'm not criticizing your business model or anyone elses.

> Please correct me if I'm wrong but this is not how I understand the meaning of "open source software". So you've made the assumption that it's distributed under a source access only license, but instead of verifying that assumption, you're asking others to correct the conclusions you draw from it.

To paraphrase Cunningham's Law: Posting the wrong answer is the best way to get the right answer.

Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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Please correct me if I'm wrong but this is not how I understand the meaning of "open source software". It sounds rather like customers get source access. Do they have the right to sell the source code or re-release it in any way by following an open source license? ( https://opensource.org/licenses ) P.S. I'm not criticizing your business model or anyone elses.

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Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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In 2021 I recently launched my newest product: It's called open3ABox and it's a raspberry pi with open3A pre-installed which I deliver to my customers who have not the technical skills for their own server but don't want a cloud version either. It's fully remote managed and monitored by me This would be an interesting model for quite a few services. It reminds me of Ubiquity's cloud key. I wish some government grant…

Yup. That raspberry pi with stuff on it is a clever way of addressing a wider market. :-)

If you’re clever or worried about business continuity you can learn from the practices of some enterprise it providers and add built in self checks, call home, and even charge for preventative maintenance. For example, “We noticed your dongle is overheating / having flash issues / whatever and not running optimally. Here’s a replacement.” Or - “we noticed that your dongle hasn’t been used in a while. Is it ok?”

Re: How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invoicing application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The demo site is in German The target market is probably Germany. The post mentions amount of money in euros, but never other currencies used in English-speaking countries. It make sense to not internationalize the website if the product doesn’t fit the international market (I bet invoices have different legal requirements everywhere).

And yet the blog article is in English and it was promoted in an English site (hacker news :)

The blog is about the author's experience not about the software itself
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