Whatever the results say, women are discriminated and they need a pay rise and more acknowledgement. Data will say whatever we tell them.
Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
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Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#22How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
Top tier jobs are subjective. Women have less interest in engineering.
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#23How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
Or possibly, academia and the general workforce optimize for different things not included in your list?
Does anyone here think their academic experience was a direct analog for their workforce experience?
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#24How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
> women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs
Correct. I've yet to impress with my math skills, just saying.
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#25How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
Women face a tradeoff in their relation to their careers and pregnancies that men do not.
Even in the countries where child bearing is highly protected in the workplace i would suppose this can explain at a significant chunk of the gap.
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#26How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
or this is the cumulative effect of systematic discrimination for decades and centuries.
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#27How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
Because women naturally list towards jobs that pay less, and under conditions that pay less (part time, contract work, etc). How many deep sea welders are women? Less than 0.1%. How many oil rig workers are women? Less than 1%. Good deep sea welders earn over $300k.
>Because women naturally list towards jobs that pay less,
Couldn't one then also argue that jobs women list towards get paid less? E.g. instead of asking why women gravitate to those jobs that are paid less, ask why the jobs women gravitate towards are paid less.
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#28How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
Or, people pursue their passions as young people without much regard for what a professional career would look like.
I fiddled with programming and computers as a young teen because I found it interesting, not because I thought I could eventually make money with it. My good friend wrote fantasy stories all the time, because that was her interest.
20 years later, I can retire whenever I want because of the choices I made as a nerdy 13 year old, whereas my friend is getting paid $40k/yr editing a small newspaper.
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#29How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
Having Babies. Really, being a mother is what skews most stats about women on money issues.
There has been policymaking about this in a bunch of european countries, and if they are released from financial constrains (handouts, public housing, whatever) they seem to double down on it.
Let's face it, working, for most people, is something you do out of necessity. Why do we really expect women to have a similar behaviour of men about work, when they have a socially aceptable and now economical venue to avoid it.
There's probably a small percentage of men that find their work interesting. Even smaller for all their work life.
Edit: Please, yeah, I know that raising children is work, pardon my lightly written comment.
Re: Girls perform better academically in almost all countries (2015)
#30How is it possible that girls perform better academically (in 2015) yet are under represented in the top tier of jobs? Either women have no interest in money, academic skills have no bearing in getting high paying jobs, or discrimination is more prevalent then you’d think. I suppose all three could be true.
Most of my money is attributable to my negotiation skills and assertiveness, rather than my programming skill that I bent over backwards to develop.