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AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by ComputerGuru »

FatalLogic wrote: post #14

Up to 80% of drivers rated themselves as 'above average' in a survey [0] And there have been similar results in other surveys [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3730094/

I laughed at that statistic the first time I read it, but it isn’t ridiculous. 80% of drivers consider themselves better than what they think of as the average (mean) driver, not average (mode) driver. Same for most surveys. People see how bad the worst is, how good the best is, and then place themselves somewhere above the middle of that range.

Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by throw2838 »

FatalLogic wrote: post #14

Up to 80% of drivers rated themselves as 'above average' in a survey [0] And there have been similar results in other surveys [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3730094/

Selection bias in a survey. Bad drivers do not spend much time on road, do not own vehicle, do not have an insurance on their name, do not even have a valid driving license...

Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by Stratoscope »

KorematsuFred wrote: post #10
KingOfCoders wrote: post #2

89% of horse riders were afraid of riding a train.

I think state of PA tried to ban automobiles by saying they were too dangerous. They said in order to drive a car it should be manned by a driver, a mechanic, one guy to run in front of the car and one guy to walk behind the car and god forbid they see a horse rider they must disassemble that car and hide the parts in bushes until the horse has passed.

It was the UK that passed the Locomotive Act, aka the Red Flag Act in 1865, and Vermont passed a Red Flag Law in 1894. Both were repealed in 1896.

Vermont's law required a "person of mature age" to walk an eighth of a mile ahead of the vehicle with a red flag in the day or a red lantern at night.

The UK's law had additional requirements such as the number of people who had to drive the locomotive.

Neither law required anyone to disassemble the locomotive or automobile and hide the parts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_traffic_laws

Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by piracy1 »

onion2k wrote: post #11
piracy1 wrote: post #3

I wonder if it's an age thing. I'm 20, I have quite little fear and I think most of my peers feel the same way. I'm planning to buy a Tesla the second they let me buy one with bitcoin and I 100% plan to daily drive autopilot on city streets when it's ready, I really can't picture any of my friends being like wtf turn that shit off. Edit: Disregard, I thought it was self driving related not full robotaxi that shit is…

I'm planning to buy a Tesla the second they let me buy one with bitcoin You can buy one with BTC today. You just have to use an intermediary to turn the BTC in to USD. Why would you wait until you can send BTC directly?

I want to support businesses accepting BTC directly. Also, it's a good meme, buying a self driving car with magic internet money, it being a meme like that and sorta being a piece of the bit of history I care about is the only reason I feel like spending 50k+ on a car. I have an old ass car it works fine.

Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by virgilp »

foepys wrote: post #18
FatalLogic wrote: post #14

Up to 80% of drivers rated themselves as 'above average' in a survey [0] And there have been similar results in other surveys [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3730094/

People seem to be very bad with subjective averages. Just like 80% of men on OkCupid were rated by women to be below average.

That could very well mean that mostly the below-average men are creating accounts on OkCupid, though.

Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by piracy1 »

KorematsuFred wrote: post #9
piracy1 wrote: post #3

I wonder if it's an age thing. I'm 20, I have quite little fear and I think most of my peers feel the same way. I'm planning to buy a Tesla the second they let me buy one with bitcoin and I 100% plan to daily drive autopilot on city streets when it's ready, I really can't picture any of my friends being like wtf turn that shit off. Edit: Disregard, I thought it was self driving related not full robotaxi that shit is…

>daily drive autopilot on city streets when it's ready Please note that it is not real autopilot and be safe. I can understand not being scared of automatic vehicles but Tesla isnt self driving yet.

Yeah, I do think it's vaporware forever or at least a few years, but who knows.

Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by changoplatanero »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #21
FatalLogic wrote: post #14

Up to 80% of drivers rated themselves as 'above average' in a survey [0] And there have been similar results in other surveys [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3730094/

I laughed at that statistic the first time I read it, but it isn’t ridiculous. 80% of drivers consider themselves better than what they think of as the average (mean) driver, not average (mode) driver. Same for most surveys. People see how bad the worst is, how good the best is, and then place themselves somewhere above the middle of that range.

It could also mean that 80% of people are better than average according to their preferred metric of good driving but that everyone has a different metric.

Re: AAA survey finds 86% of drivers afraid to ride in automated vehicles

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Post by rsa25519 »

heavyset_go wrote: post #4

I don't blame them. There are too many incentives for companies to ship self-driving features in vehicles before they're ready to be on the road.

As in, the incentive to kill customers? I see the value of considering incentives, but I think the situation is more nuanced than that, regardless of whether wide-spread self-driving will start off unsafe.
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