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A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

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Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

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Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can help me understand but from the time I spent to take a look at NFTs they don't really make sense?

If I want to buy a NFT currently there are many different marketplaces where I can buy it from. What's stopping a creator from just creating on multiple marketplaces?

Also it seems like only some marketplaces have verification for creators so wouldn't it be easy to create a fake account and upload/ sell someone else's work. (Doesn't it seems wrong for this to be a onchain application if it's just a chain reflection of what a centralised entity has verified in meatspace?)

Furthermore it seems like all NFTs don't actually store the data onchain but rather just store a pointer to IPFS or to some bucketstore. Doesn't this mean that the actual content could change/ be removed underneath your contract and your NFT would be worthless?

I'm really excited about all this new tech and innovation in the cryptosphere but NFTs seem to be highly exploitable and don't get much of an advantage by being on chain.

EDIT: Forgot to mention but I've also been wondering about duplicate marketplaces on different chains.

With the Bianance Smart Chain taking off a bit it seems like we now have the potential for marketplaces (and all NFTs in them) to be duplicated and run on different chains. In this case it would seem that the NFTs you own are only worth as much as that chain has popularity. If BSC became the most popular chain your ETH based NFTs would be worth less and so forth with other chains.

It also seems like this would have the same issue that duplicate content be created and sold on multiple chains.

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how NFTs change anything, though? Like, why do I care that Bob technically "owns" the file that I have a bit-for-bit identical version of?

The 3 ways to look at this are from a literal perspective, a legal perspective, and an 'artistic' perspective. Literally, this changes nothing. A copy is the same artwork as any other. Legally, having ownership (or partial) of artwork can be enforceable. Artistically speaking, this seems to mean a lot to a lot of people's sense of value. I guess that's important. It's less important to me but I definitely see where t…

Legally, I don't think this changes anything either. Unless I'm mistaken, all of this can already be accomplished within the copyright system (albeit with a lot more red tape).

After reading the responses here, I think I'm just gonna have to file this under "I don't care, but if it makes people happy then more power to them." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

#23

How is this different from Colored Coins? Or CryptoKitties? I'm pretty bullish on cryptos in general, but I just don't 'get' this. Maybe it will take some time to sink in with me, but at the moment it just seems like the latest crypto pump-and-dump. Especially with the number of people on Clubhouse shilling them.

CryptoKitties are NFTs. A NFT on the Ethereum network is an ERC-721 token which makes a what cryptokitties is built on.

Colored coins was a proposal to add tokenized asset capability to the Bitcoin blockchain but I don’t think that went anywhere. Ethereum was originally going to be built on bitcoin but Vitalik was not welcomed by the bitcoin devs so he started his own thing.

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

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post #2

This is like a namecoin for digitally produced content. This doesn't seem like anything new.

The new feature is that, being non-fungible, it is by definition not a commodity. It's thus exempt from CFTC regulation. This opens up a whole new area of make-money-fast schemes.

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

#25

There are two parts of NFTs, a really cool development and what most people will see. The first reason to buy an NFT is to support the artist in a way that may have value down the line if the artist's work gets more popular. There are a lot of digital artists who I would throw $50 to get some digital print with that in mind, or multiples of that to own something unique of theirs. The second reason to buy an NFT is as…

The concept of exclusivity is one of the rights of ownership, generally. There's none of that when you "purchase" an NFT that represents a "digital print", and, while it does support the artist (just like a direct payment would), there is precisely zero to indicate that such an NFT would increase in value with an artist's popularity. It's not like if you pay 10x for it as the second owner you get to hang it on your wall and the first owner doesn't. Also, precisely zero of that value increase would go to "support the artist" - all of the profit would go to the original speculator.

I'm a big blockchain advocate and I can't see any point to NFTs either, other than for perhaps tracking ownership of specific physical objects. For digital files of any kind, there's no exclusivity that "ownership" confers.

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

#26
Tokens themselves are worthless, they reperesent valuable stuff. To represent valueable stuff, the token and the valuable thing must be strongly connected. Which means the thing must contain the token. Which means if I transact with the thing, I also hand over the token. Basically, the entire hoo-ha is about us being able to print UUIDs on things?

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

#27
NFTs fascinate me as a technical/political concept, in terms of creating new digital certificates of ownership (I don't think it's that new, as CryptoKitties and offshoots have been around for a while).

What confuses me is how this ownership will be enforced, as it seems like one of the main purposes of governments is to enforce property rights. I think it's simpler to enforce these ownership rights with bitcoin because 1) the token has to be on the bitcoin blockchain and 2) each bitcoin is equal to the others.

Questions I have:

1) If one person registers a thing (can be digital but also analog, as I see the NFT as just the certificate of ownership), what stops that person from registering it on another blockchain? Is there only one blockchain for these proofs of ownership?

2) Assuming there is more than one blockchain and they exist independently, what stops another person from registering that same thing on another blockchain?

3) What stops a person from registering a very slight deviation of a thing (e.g., in the link, tweaking the green color in eyes of the smiley face)?

4) What stops someone from registering something that others have created but haven't yet registered, i.e., me scouring the internet to find un-registered art?

5) What rights do the people who own these NFTs have over the item they own? E.g., some people talked on CH about how if one buys an NFT of a digital art piece, some NFTs will say the person cannot print that art piece on t-shirts and sell them.

6) Most importantly, who will resolve the myriad of disputes that will result from the above?

As I ask these questions, I realize that maybe many of these issues get reduced/eliminated by having verified identities of the person registering the thing. I'm not sure, I'm open to hearing answers that help reduce my skepticism :-)

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

#28
There are so many more uses for this besides digital art. Digital art is probably the worst application for the reason cited in the article. The marginal cost to make a perfect copy of digital art is zero.

Linking an NFT to a real world asset I think is more interesting. Or at the very least a digital asset for which there is some benefit of ownership. Ticket to an event, rights to the royalty stream from a song or art piece, domain names, etc...

Unisocks is an example of an NFT linked to a real world item.

This digital art thing just feels like the easiest possible construct for pure speculation.

Re: A Guide to NFTs, and How They Are About to Revolutionize Pretty Much Everything

#30
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 3 ways to look at this are from a literal perspective, a legal perspective, and an 'artistic' perspective. Literally, this changes nothing. A copy is the same artwork as any other. Legally, having ownership (or partial) of artwork can be enforceable. Artistically speaking, this seems to mean a lot to a lot of people's sense of value. I guess that's important. It's less important to me but I definitely see where t…

Legally, I don't think this changes anything either. Unless I'm mistaken, all of this can already be accomplished within the copyright system (albeit with a lot more red tape). After reading the responses here, I think I'm just gonna have to file this under "I don't care, but if it makes people happy then more power to them." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think this can help to verify ownership across national borders, yet I think it might require global governance to overlook the enforcement of these property rights, which I haven't heard too many people discuss.

Copyrights, patents, and trademarks in the US, AFAIK, are basically just the right to sue someone if they infringe on your ownership rights. Even deeds and property ownership require some legal or physical enforcement.

Anyways, I'm curious about this space and hoping I start to hear more conversations in crypto talking about which systems of human governance we want to work hand-in-hand with these blockchains.

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