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Re: Free for Developers

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It would be neat if HN could offer something like "Login By Facebook" that returned user/create date/karma. Would make a nice testbed for offering free stuff while having some high pass filter like "HN account > 3 months old and has > 500 karma."

The most common hack for this has been verification using “about” field. A website asks for your HN username, validated the age, gives you a random string to add to your HN about page. Once done, your accounts are now linked!

And, positively or negatively, it offers a form of promotion for the website.

Re: Free for Developers

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One trick I have used to overcome this is to use a virtual card service. If you have a Capital One card, you get this for free (download "Capital One Eno" extension), but there is also Privacy.com which does the same thing linked to any bank account. So when someone needs a credit card, I will generate a virtual card (right inside the browser plugin, its really slick and easy) for that website. They will verify the c…

> If anyone knows of other ways to create virtual cards, please let me know. privacy.com ( https://privacy.com , or If you want to use a referral, privacy.com/join/NPNDJ ) is also free and works across any bank/debit card, although just recently they started monetizing by limiting free accounts to creating 12 virtual cards a month, so if you need more it's $10/mo. https://privacy.com/pricing > This allows you to get…

Do you know how they detect virtual cards? I have seen some scripts which detect whether card number is valid CC or not. But never heard of validation of virtual cards.

Re: Free for Developers

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post #16
post #9

It would be neat if HN could offer something like "Login By Facebook" that returned user/create date/karma. Would make a nice testbed for offering free stuff while having some high pass filter like "HN account > 3 months old and has > 500 karma."

I disagree. I rather have people post honest, thoughftul opinions rather than pander to a crowd with low quality feel good posts to get freebies.

It would be harder to gamify account age.

Re: Free for Developers

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> If anyone knows of other ways to create virtual cards, please let me know. privacy.com ( https://privacy.com , or If you want to use a referral, privacy.com/join/NPNDJ ) is also free and works across any bank/debit card, although just recently they started monetizing by limiting free accounts to creating 12 virtual cards a month, so if you need more it's $10/mo. https://privacy.com/pricing > This allows you to get…

Do you know how they detect virtual cards? I have seen some scripts which detect whether card number is valid CC or not. But never heard of validation of virtual cards.

Card numbers all come from BIN ranges, most likely these virtual cards are all issued within some specific BIN ranges (meaning you can tell them apart based on a certain # of prefix digits).

Re: Free for Developers

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post #9

It would be neat if HN could offer something like "Login By Facebook" that returned user/create date/karma. Would make a nice testbed for offering free stuff while having some high pass filter like "HN account > 3 months old and has > 500 karma."

How do you feel about the Stack Overflow solution to this problem?

My app has 300 features. Beginners get to use 8 of them. Once ten people think you are not a wretched toad, you get to use 20.

Once you've solved a problem for 200 people, you can edit other people's posts.

In fact doesn't HN not let you downvote until you get 500 upvotes? It's been a while.

Re: Free for Developers

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I got a kick out of this list. Especially this sublist:

> (note: You must pay if you use .casa, .cf, .click, .email, .fit, .ga, .gdn, .gq, .loan, .london, .men, .ml, .pl, .rest, .ru, .tk, .top, .work TLDs due to spam)

Makes me want to search my spam folder for .gq out of curiosity alone.

Re: Free for Developers

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This is my common issue with "free" services. It's free, but you have to input your credit card. Ah and also, if your website blows up, such as from being top 10 on HNews, you'll have to pay, but don't worry about that now.

One trick I have used to overcome this is to use a virtual card service. If you have a Capital One card, you get this for free (download "Capital One Eno" extension), but there is also Privacy.com which does the same thing linked to any bank account. So when someone needs a credit card, I will generate a virtual card (right inside the browser plugin, its really slick and easy) for that website. They will verify the c…

> If anyone knows of other ways to create virtual cards, please let me know.

To extend the plea, if anyone knows how to do this in Canada, I’d love to know. As far as I know the services that exist are USA only.

Re: Free for Developers

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post #27
post #9

It would be neat if HN could offer something like "Login By Facebook" that returned user/create date/karma. Would make a nice testbed for offering free stuff while having some high pass filter like "HN account > 3 months old and has > 500 karma."

How do you feel about the Stack Overflow solution to this problem? My app has 300 features. Beginners get to use 8 of them. Once ten people think you are not a wretched toad, you get to use 20. Once you've solved a problem for 200 people, you can edit other people's posts. In fact doesn't HN not let you downvote until you get 500 upvotes? It's been a while.

It seems to work well. I am an occasional contributor so I don't have very much power there but I understand that communities collapse without this control since they get dominated by drive-by losers. I'm not one, but there's no signal I can provide that I'm not one. Metafilter has the model where you spend money as a signal that you're not one. I guess I'd pay $20 one-time as an upgrade that is revocable.

I am a Wikipedia auto-confirmed user, so that lets me make articles without needing to go through the process, so that's nice.

The problem with all of these sites is that they don't also police the opposite side: the obsessive guy who spends all his time on the site and attaches all of his identity to it so he is just a negative person despite having lots of 'karma'-equivalent.

It's like the value-to-community vs time-spent curve is like

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In fact, maybe HN should have a high-karma warning. "This user spends so much time on HN they can't possibly be productive in real life. You are getting the town drunk, not the star of the pub"
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