alright well, I guess I have to say well done Facebook in this case.
As long as it aligns with your views it is not slippery slope?
Do you have somewhere in my comments I've argued about slippery sloping in regards to Facebook?
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Re: Facebook takes down main page of Myanmar military
#22The outrage people have about censorship wouldn't be that big if those companies simply stated "we censor opinions we don't like, and we censor for political reasons" in their terms of service. Instead they create the outrage by having vague rules about what is allowed and not allowed on the platform and then, on top of that, start enforcing those rules selectively.
Ah, managing expectations seems to be a dying art.
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#23What about the US military's FB page? Didn't they cause thousands of innocent deaths in Iraq? I'm sure some Americans can somehow justify it, but I doubt the grieving Iraqi's will accept it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massa...
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#24The argument regarding private platform freedom of speech/censorship isn't relevant for Facebook, where documented examples of the state/governments working with Facebook to censor opinions and restrict speech exist. The line between state/private is blurred at best, and disappearing.
Funny arguments go both ways depending on whether people like the censoring or don't. It's either it's a private company so it's their right or that it's the defacto platform therefore getting in the way of freedom of speech. In any case modern politics is a shit show and all parties are corrupt as hell each having there own methods and rhetoric that their public buys. In the end the West and its imperialism is as corrupt and full of shit as the east and its mostly local corruption because they don't have the power to exploit globally. West, lofty ideals backed up with little substance, East no ideals and hence no flowery rhetoric to cover up their misdeeds.
Re: Facebook takes down main page of Myanmar military
#25The outrage people have about censorship wouldn't be that big if those companies simply stated "we censor opinions we don't like, and we censor for political reasons" in their terms of service. Instead they create the outrage by having vague rules about what is allowed and not allowed on the platform and then, on top of that, start enforcing those rules selectively.
They won’t do that, because “we want to hide this” is a lot less persuasive than “this is false, fringe, propaganda, etc.”
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#26I'm in favor of Facebook taking down absolutely any page, whether it agrees with my political views or not. Why? Because Facebook's power comes from network effects. The more people, across the political spectrum, find their interests to be blocked on Facebook, the less people will find value in Facebook in general. Over time, this means Facebook is committing suicide. This is the best possible outcome for humanity.
Die Facebook, die.
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#27What about the US military's FB page? Didn't they cause thousands of innocent deaths in Iraq? I'm sure some Americans can somehow justify it, but I doubt the grieving Iraqi's will accept it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massa...
Why even bring this up? Whataboutism is a very shallow argument.
Re: Facebook takes down main page of Myanmar military
#28What about the US military's FB page? Didn't they cause thousands of innocent deaths in Iraq? I'm sure some Americans can somehow justify it, but I doubt the grieving Iraqi's will accept it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massa...
Why even bring this up? Whataboutism is a very shallow argument.
Because it may be shallow, but when discussing the criteria by which they decide what is worth taking down, it is also a very valid argument.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
She did that before the capitol riots, which seems to be the inflexion point at which Facebook threw out their old dogma of political neutrality.
The hallowed halls of insider trading were breached by a man in a Viking hat, surrounded by press photographers as he did so, while his minions rushed in to claim control of the country as they walked in an orderly line through the velvet rope turnstiles. Any fair minded person would see this as an legitimate attempt to overthrow the government, necessitating extraordinary intervention by a website.
And yet here we are :-/
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#30Well, here goes another thread about free speech vs. ethical discourse, where atleast one side uncompromisingly refuses to put themselves in the shoes of the other. Just to fast-forward this thread a bit for everyone: - Free speech doesn't exist on some for-profit company's platform. Communities should be moderated on some ethical standard for the benefit of peace - Free speech trumps ethics and peace -- without free…
I have an also-unpopular third option: The graph of freedom of speech versus personal liberty looks like the Laffer curve for government income vs tax rate. One end is zero for obvious reasons; the other end is also zero because it is a power vacuum, one which e.g. charismatic narcissistic Machiavellian sociopaths exploit it to rise to power and they kick away the free speech ladder after they get it.
So are you saying that the current people in charge are the "charismatic narcissistic Machiavellian sociopaths" who exploited the power vacuum that existed with the creation of the internet and are now kicking away the "free speech ladder?"