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Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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What did Gill do that was illegal?

This doesn't imply that he did anything illegal. It's standard in hearings to get any/all prominent people/corporations involved to testify to paint a clearer picture for law makers to then potentially act on. It's more research than anything.

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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post #12

It's interesting watching /r/wallstreetbets oscillate between "We did nothing wrong!" to "Well okay, some people were doing some things that were wrong, but hopefully no one will notice." https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/lj8djx/day_... (I don't personally believe that anyone did anything that should be prosecuted here, but what I believe is irrelevant to courts.) There is one thing that (in my un-humb…

The collateral requirement was imposed because of the incredibly high chance of the stock simply collapsing again. Trading halts in response to massive movements aren't unusual either.

I've only been sorta paying attention so i could be wrong but trades were not suspended or halted? only buying was prevented, and only for some brokerages?

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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post #16

It's interesting watching /r/wallstreetbets oscillate between "We did nothing wrong!" to "Well okay, some people were doing some things that were wrong, but hopefully no one will notice." https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/lj8djx/day_... (I don't personally believe that anyone did anything that should be prosecuted here, but what I believe is irrelevant to courts.) There is one thing that (in my un-humb…

NSCC collateral rules are widely believed to follow directly from Dodd-Frank requirements. It's also hard to understand the supposed conspiracy you'd be prosecuting NSCC for. Is the idea here that NSCC was somehow corrupted by agents of hedge funds short on GME?

Nah, no conspiracy. I just don't like that they can change their collateral requirement from 3% to 100% for specific stocks in one day, regardless of the reasons.

To turn it around: should they have the authority to enforce a 33.3x collateral increase with no oversight simply because they feel it's necessary for the world to stop trading GME? This is the heart of what I hope will be regulated.

BTW, playing whiskey slaps was fun. It was nice to see the crazy pentester world, even if I had wrong expectations going in. Hope you've been well!

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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It's interesting watching /r/wallstreetbets oscillate between "We did nothing wrong!" to "Well okay, some people were doing some things that were wrong, but hopefully no one will notice." https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/lj8djx/day_... (I don't personally believe that anyone did anything that should be prosecuted here, but what I believe is irrelevant to courts.) There is one thing that (in my un-humb…

They didn't change the rules of the game. The volatility and risk changed, thus the collateral requirements changed. Note: I am not a financial professional.

I'm not sure if anyone from wsb should be prosecuted; but I will say that if another hedge fund had tried to do what wsb did, it would have been clearly and unambiguously illegal market manipulation.

I do think it is quite likely there were some financial professionals posting on wsb that were breaching some laws or technical requirements. I have no evidence, but I would not be surprised.

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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post #23
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The collateral requirement was imposed because of the incredibly high chance of the stock simply collapsing again. Trading halts in response to massive movements aren't unusual either.

I've only been sorta paying attention so i could be wrong but trades were not suspended or halted? only buying was prevented, and only for some brokerages?

Trades at the exchange level were repeatedly halted over the course of two weeks or so of the most volatile trading.

Trades by certain brokers or apps were also notably halted on a Thursday due to lack of liquidity.

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NSCC collateral rules are widely believed to follow directly from Dodd-Frank requirements. It's also hard to understand the supposed conspiracy you'd be prosecuting NSCC for. Is the idea here that NSCC was somehow corrupted by agents of hedge funds short on GME?

Nah, no conspiracy. I just don't like that they can change their collateral requirement from 3% to 100% for specific stocks in one day, regardless of the reasons. To turn it around: should they have the authority to enforce a 33.3x collateral increase with no oversight simply because they feel it's necessary for the world to stop trading GME? This is the heart of what I hope will be regulated. BTW, playing whiskey sl…

You think people should be prosecuted for doing something you don't like? That's pretty brave - I think the same about things I dislike but would never state it publicly.

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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It's interesting watching /r/wallstreetbets oscillate between "We did nothing wrong!" to "Well okay, some people were doing some things that were wrong, but hopefully no one will notice." https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/lj8djx/day_... (I don't personally believe that anyone did anything that should be prosecuted here, but what I believe is irrelevant to courts.) There is one thing that (in my un-humb…

The "alleged fraud" described at the end of that post is not fraud at all. That poster either doesn't actually understand options or is misremembering the post in question.

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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post #18
post #8

Why is the central offender - Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation - not going to be there?

Because there were no offenders. DTCC raising collateral requirements on an ultravoltile stock with a high chance of price collapse is just... a reasonable thing to do?

Sure, no problems with that. It would be reasonable to say that in advance and not lie about it.

Re: Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund managers

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post #23
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The collateral requirement was imposed because of the incredibly high chance of the stock simply collapsing again. Trading halts in response to massive movements aren't unusual either.

I've only been sorta paying attention so i could be wrong but trades were not suspended or halted? only buying was prevented, and only for some brokerages?

It's the collateral increase that caused Robinhood and other no-fee brokerages to halt trading. Brokerages which had the ability to charge for trades simply required more cash on hand and charged slightly more for the trade.
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