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Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by colechristensen »

rockooooo wrote: post #2

"So in moving it to GitHub, we’re finding that a lot of things are just nicer because a large paid staff of engineers is working on it every day. And I grew up during the heydey of the Free Software Foundation, so I know this is a trap, but I’m tired and don’t have the energy to be a server admin for something that’s held together with scotch tape and prayers when I’m really supposed to be writing OpenGL code." This…

>This seems to sum up the biggest pain point that drives people away from OSS. Not knowledge, not skill, not price, but the total experience of a nice piece of software that lets you get the work you actually want to get done... done.

This is why I continue to be fascinated by FreeBSD, I don't use it for much but when I do, what I'm trying to do almost always works right out of the box.

My point is that is all comes down to packaging, which is done everywhere. Docker is so popular because debian-style/rpm-style/etc packaging systems and the maintainers of said packages do a pretty uneven job of making things work without luck or fiddling (or having to have package specific knowledge about how to do something obvious). Docker doesn't really do a great job either, but it has a different set of problems and having the old ones gone is nice.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by TonyTrapp »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #10
talhah wrote: post #3

I've never heard of mercurial until this post, I've been using git for version control and it does the job really well. To those who use mercurial over git, why?

Git didn't exist until Linus Torvalds sat down and hacked it out in a few weeks during 2005. I remember using SDL back in '99 to play with game development on Windows 98. So the short answer is, git wasn't even an idea in its creators head when SDL was around and thriving. IMHO when you see a design decision that seems odd to you, it's a good opportunity to investigate the entire context around that design, rather th…

That doesn't really answer the question though as both Mercurial and Git were released in 2005.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by livvelupp »

d1zzy wrote: post #12
talhah wrote: post #3

I've never heard of mercurial until this post, I've been using git for version control and it does the job really well. To those who use mercurial over git, why?

Seems to be popular at Facebook.[1] Where I work Mercurial has been an option for some time now (no Git unfortunately) and coming from Git I must say I really love how it does some of its things: - hg split: split a commit into as many different commits as you like using an interactive patch editor (you can fold/collapse hunks, can edit them textually, can select which lines of the hunk should be applied). It will au…

What's the other options besides hg if it ain't git?

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by jrochkind1 »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #10
talhah wrote: post #3

I've never heard of mercurial until this post, I've been using git for version control and it does the job really well. To those who use mercurial over git, why?

Git didn't exist until Linus Torvalds sat down and hacked it out in a few weeks during 2005. I remember using SDL back in '99 to play with game development on Windows 98. So the short answer is, git wasn't even an idea in its creators head when SDL was around and thriving. IMHO when you see a design decision that seems odd to you, it's a good opportunity to investigate the entire context around that design, rather th…

However, Mercurial also didn't exist before 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercurial#History

i would guess you are right, though, that at the point SDL chose Mercurial (I don't know when), git hadn't achieved the market domination over mercurial it now has.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by throwawayboise »

talhah wrote: post #3

I've never heard of mercurial until this post, I've been using git for version control and it does the job really well. To those who use mercurial over git, why?

My VC history includes RCS, CVS, Visual Source Safe, then several years with Subversion. Moving from svn, the hg CLI was more intuitive. I still don't understand git at all, beyond the basic "clone, pull, add, commit, push" commands.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by qbasic_forever »

livvelupp wrote: post #20

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Just be aware that "boomer rant" creator made one of the most highly successful and used game development libraries in history. I would wager 75% of the games in your steam library use or depend on SDL in some way. Almost certainly most of the games from your childhood that you cherish and love have used SDL too. You should probably be thanking them for creating something that gave you joy at one time, and giving it away for free...

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by jen20 »

livvelupp wrote: post #24
d1zzy wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be popular at Facebook.[1] Where I work Mercurial has been an option for some time now (no Git unfortunately) and coming from Git I must say I really love how it does some of its things: - hg split: split a commit into as many different commits as you like using an interactive patch editor (you can fold/collapse hunks, can edit them textually, can select which lines of the hunk should be applied). It will au…

What's the other options besides hg if it ain't git?

BitKeeper is one, Fossil is another. Then there are non-DVCS systems like Subversion, Perforce, VSTS etc.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by fileeditview »

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #16
rockooooo wrote: post #2

"So in moving it to GitHub, we’re finding that a lot of things are just nicer because a large paid staff of engineers is working on it every day. And I grew up during the heydey of the Free Software Foundation, so I know this is a trap, but I’m tired and don’t have the energy to be a server admin for something that’s held together with scotch tape and prayers when I’m really supposed to be writing OpenGL code." This…

Wonder why they did not pick GitLab since it is significantly better for FOSS ideals and has the same niceness of GitHub

My guess is the network-effect. If you want more contributions Github is the platform to pick for your project. Good or bad it is the de facto standard platform for OSS projects with a huge pool of potential developers.

Re: SDL Moves to GitHub

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Post by Shorel »

livvelupp wrote: post #24
d1zzy wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be popular at Facebook.[1] Where I work Mercurial has been an option for some time now (no Git unfortunately) and coming from Git I must say I really love how it does some of its things: - hg split: split a commit into as many different commits as you like using an interactive patch editor (you can fold/collapse hunks, can edit them textually, can select which lines of the hunk should be applied). It will au…

What's the other options besides hg if it ain't git?

SQLite uses Fossil.
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