Apple, where is the Facetime open spec that you promised? Google may just beat them to the punch.
I'm not sure if they intend to or not, but who knows - wwdc is coming up, and this may be perfect timing for them to strike back.
Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web
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#22Apple, where is the Facetime open spec that you promised? Google may just beat them to the punch.
Apparently, the FaceTime team wasn't aware that it was to be made an open standard until Steve said it on stage:
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/05/11/facetime-standar...
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#23Finally we know what's going with iLBC codec. For more than a year it's been in a limbo.
Yep, sorry about that. You can still use the old code under the old license, but you can also use it under the new (and more permissive and favorable) license.
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#24Is this Google's response to MS purchasing skype? Seems like the classic strategy of commoditizing your competitor's business (and they get a 2-for-1 deal since Apple is also wielding FaceTime).
Hm, I don't think so. This post is dated May 3rd, which predates the Skype deal's announcement by 7 days. Also, the WhatWG group for RTC's mailing list was first posted to April 12, 2011. So that potentially indicates this was in the works beforehand. Since Google purportedly put in a bid for Skype they no-doubt knew Skype was on the market, though. I would guess this is more likely a response to FaceTime. Apple's co…
There is an IETF realtime-web working group :
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/rtcweb/charters
and this is part of Google's involvement with that.
However the original question is still valid, as this release might have been accelerated quite a bit because MS bought Skype.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Actually, it was very clear. Jobs promised, in no uncertain words, that Apple will make Facetime an open standard. I remember that well, I was quite excited about that. He lied and I'm quite surprised that virtually no one gave Apple the hard time they deserve for lying during a keynote speech. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime : "Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in du…
Open standard and open source are different things.
Having both an open standard and a full stack implementation (BSD-licensed) is ages ahead of just publishing some details about the protocol.
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#26One way to decimate adversaries is to open-source your entire competitive advantage. Unfortunately that only works when you’re the market leader.
So nobody cares about open-sourcing WebRTC. Something that would be actually noticeable in this field right now would be Microsoft that open-sources Skype and gives everything away under the BSD license.
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#27Very nice, thank you Google.
Glancing over the API docs, I'm not clear what will be used for signaling. It appears to be based on XMPP/Jingle, am I right?
What about SIP?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Actually, it was very clear. Jobs promised, in no uncertain words, that Apple will make Facetime an open standard. I remember that well, I was quite excited about that. He lied and I'm quite surprised that virtually no one gave Apple the hard time they deserve for lying during a keynote speech. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime : "Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in du…
Jobs promised, in no uncertain words
Which were what?
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#29Very nice, thank you Google. Glancing over the API docs, I'm not clear what will be used for signaling. It appears to be based on XMPP/Jingle, am I right? What about SIP?
From the FAQ:
Builds on the strength of the web browser: WebRTC abstracts signaling by offering a signaling state machine that maps directly to PeerConnection. Web developers can therefore choose the protocol of choice for their usage scenario (for example, but not limited to: SIP, XMPP/Jingle, etc...).
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, it was very clear. Jobs promised, in no uncertain words, that Apple will make Facetime an open standard. I remember that well, I was quite excited about that. He lied and I'm quite surprised that virtually no one gave Apple the hard time they deserve for lying during a keynote speech. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime : "Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in du…
Jobs promised, in no uncertain words Which were what?
"Now FaceTime is based on a lot of open standards: H.264 video, AAC audio, and a bunch of alphabet soup acronyms. And we’re going to take it all away. We’re going to the standards bodies, starting tomorrow, and we’re going to make FaceTime an open industry standard." - Steve Jobs