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A 25-Year-Old Bet Comes Due: Has Tech Destroyed Society?

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Re: A 25-Year-Old Bet Comes Due: Has Tech Destroyed Society?

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Post by throwaway3699 »

devlopr wrote: post #14
ronnier wrote: post #10

It's definitely impacted some more than others. There's now an entire class of men who can no longer have romantic relationships because they've been cast out of the dating market as technology altered dating dynamics not in their favor. For these men, their world, their society is destroyed.

Curious to hear a bit more. Who are these men? The non-tech jocks? There must be non-tech females left? Are you speaking about the average looking male group who can't get tinder hookups?

Guessing they're on about incels.

Definitely becoming a major issue now. I think they're generally gross and it's obvious why they're single, but there has to be an underlying reason for the trend.

Re: A 25-Year-Old Bet Comes Due: Has Tech Destroyed Society?

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Post by benrbray »

ronnier wrote: post #10

It's definitely impacted some more than others. There's now an entire class of men who can no longer have romantic relationships because they've been cast out of the dating market as technology altered dating dynamics not in their favor. For these men, their world, their society is destroyed.

I'm not sure exactly what you're hinting at, but I think you should take a cold, hard look at yourself and the expectations you place on your potential partners. Do you imagine them as actual human beings with their own thoughts, aspirations, preferences, goals? What does such a person have to gain (emotionally / socially) by choosing YOU in particular for a partner?

In all relationships, romantic or not, personality is everything. Do you try to be a positive person, or do you complain every time something doesn't go your way? An attractive personality and some self-confidence can go a long way in making you attractive to others, even if you haven't been particularly advantaged by your genes.

If you're talking about the dynamics around bars, hookups, and dating apps, you know that's not the only way to meet people, right? I think some of the strongest relationships come out of shared interest in a hobby / skill / career. Join hobby groups etc (not with the intention of finding a partner -- that will be weird and creepy -- but remain open to the idea that you might bump into someone along the way that really aligns with you)

Re: A 25-Year-Old Bet Comes Due: Has Tech Destroyed Society?

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Post by ronnier »

throwaway9980 wrote: post #16
ronnier wrote: post #10

It's definitely impacted some more than others. There's now an entire class of men who can no longer have romantic relationships because they've been cast out of the dating market as technology altered dating dynamics not in their favor. For these men, their world, their society is destroyed.

Pardon me for being old and married for decades, but what in the world are you talking about? There’s always somebody for somebody. Unless we’re talking about polygamy or China’s one child policy. Those definitely create a lot of single men with no hope.

There's defiantly not someone for everyone. In China and India there are millions of more men than women and countless articles about the "left over" men.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20170213-why-millions-o...

https://www.whatsonweibo.com/china-now-335-million-men-women...

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Post by daenz »

mseepgood wrote: post #20
qwantim1 wrote: post #5

He may have lost his bet, but maybe he came close. 2020 was the closest I’ve come to feeling that society was collapsing.

The problems of 2020 weren't rooted in tech, however.

They were severely exacerbated by tech. Let's argue about it and prove my point.

Re: A 25-Year-Old Bet Comes Due: Has Tech Destroyed Society?

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Post by da_big_ghey »

Not strictly related, but longbets.org promotes a similar idea. Most famously, it played host to the "million-dollar bet" between Warren Buffet and Protege Partners that the S&P 500 would outperform a portfolio. I believe this bet was made a year before it was established, however.

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Post by cryptica »

Tech made life better for some people and worse for others. All I can say is that it seems to have made my life and the life of all my relatives and friends worse and it seems to have made my enemies' lives better.

For reference; I'm an altruist, open source developer and value creator. My enemies are greedy psychopaths and zero-sum value capturers.

Re: A 25-Year-Old Bet Comes Due: Has Tech Destroyed Society?

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Post by ZephyrBlu »

devlopr wrote: post #14
ronnier wrote: post #10

It's definitely impacted some more than others. There's now an entire class of men who can no longer have romantic relationships because they've been cast out of the dating market as technology altered dating dynamics not in their favor. For these men, their world, their society is destroyed.

Curious to hear a bit more. Who are these men? The non-tech jocks? There must be non-tech females left? Are you speaking about the average looking male group who can't get tinder hookups?

I think the prevalence of social media (Not just dating apps) has somewhat shafted average men since now women have far more access to (EDIT: highly) desirable men.

The world continuously becoming more sexually liberal also means that women are more likely to pursue these men, and so average men are looked down upon moreso than before.

I'm sure plenty of people have seen the Tinder/Bumble studies where men rated women around 50/50 attractive/unattractive, whereas women rated men 20/80. I believe this is a result of the above, and a lot more nuanced aspects of the change in culture over the last say, 30-40 years.

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