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Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by witten »

rw wrote: post #19
witten wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where you got the idea about "a guy with a Mac'. I'm on a ThinkPad running Debian, and the servers are Debian as well. :) I should point out that while your concern may be legitimate, you can download your entire wiki as HTML whenever you want. So if for whatever reason you don't like the service at some point, there's no lock-in. If there's another download format that would make you feel more comfortab…

To stoke the flamefire: you know Debian hasn't had the most stellar security reputation as of late, right? :)

Let me just say that if anyone hasn't regenerated their Debian/Ubuntu SSH keys by now, they don't deserve to remain in business.

But this isn't really relevant to the discussion..

Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by lacker »

witten wrote: post #13
rdj wrote: post #12

Not really feedback, but a matter of attention-to-detail: Do you have one too many '%' in your document.write(...google analytics) code? It throws a visible '%' at the very bottom of your page.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I think I got a little over-zealous in escaping my %s. Interestingly, in Python, "%%%s" % "foo" != "%%foo"

It works just like \ in standard unix parsing - you escape the escape character by doubling it. So in "%%%s":

  "%%" -> "%"
  "%s" -> "foo"
for a result of "%foo".

Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by witten »

lacker wrote: post #22
witten wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I think I got a little over-zealous in escaping my %s. Interestingly, in Python, "%%%s" % "foo" != "%%foo"

It works just like \ in standard unix parsing - you escape the escape character by doubling it. So in "%%%s": "%%" -> "%" "%s" -> "foo" for a result of "%foo".

Right, but the escaping by doubling does not work in Python unless it's in a format string. So "%%foo" does not count as escaped. That's what threw me off.

Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by ars »

witten wrote: post #20
rw wrote: post #18

Needs tags.

It's a JavaScript-based personal wiki. What should the tags do? Are you suggesting that there should be a fallback to JavaScript-less text areas? Note that you can view the wiki pages without JavaScript. You only need JavaScript to edit them.

If javscript is unavoidable I always put in noscript tags that simply say so, but don't otherwise do anything.

Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by witten »

ars wrote: post #24
witten wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a JavaScript-based personal wiki. What should the tags do? Are you suggesting that there should be a fallback to JavaScript-less text areas? Note that you can view the wiki pages without JavaScript. You only need JavaScript to edit them.

If javscript is unavoidable I always put in noscript tags that simply say so, but don't otherwise do anything.

Oh okay. I have such a tag on some pages, but not all of them. For instance, see https://luminotes.com/sign_up with JavaScript turned off.

I guess I should add similar tags to the other pages as well.

UPDATE: Added to main wiki page.

Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by misuba »

Sad but I suspect true: if you really want to appeal to academic markets (as that one pull quote suggests), you'll need to remove the word "wiki" from your sell. The anti-Wikipedia prejudices run deep in academia, and they've attached the word "wiki" to all of those fears. You seem to have discovered one of the exceptions, which is great, but...

Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by witten »

misuba wrote: post #28

Sad but I suspect true: if you really want to appeal to academic markets (as that one pull quote suggests), you'll need to remove the word "wiki" from your sell. The anti-Wikipedia prejudices run deep in academia, and they've attached the word "wiki" to all of those fears. You seem to have discovered one of the exceptions, which is great, but...

It's a good point. I have family in academia, so I'm familiar with the anti-Wikipedia bias.

The question then is what to call the product if not a personal wiki.

Re: Yet Another Review/Rate My Startup Request

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Post by witten »

witten wrote: post #16
rickd wrote: post #15

I like it a lot, nice job. Definitely reminds me of TiddlyWiki. My main criticism is that there should be an explicit "save" button or link for notes. Perhaps it could be similar to the gmail "save draft" button, in that autosaves would disable or "gray out" the save button (nothing more to save). I think not having a specific Save button will confuse "average" users who have been trained to "Save Often!" Other than…

Thanks for the detailed feedback. I've been avoiding a "save" button because saves are implicit, but I think for the reasons you point out, I really should add one anyway. You can hide all the crap on the left (except the toolbar) by clicking the "nothing but notes" link on the right side of the page. Maybe I should make that clearer. And maybe I should have it hide the toolbar as well. Is there anything I could do t…

Okay, "nothing but notes" mode now hides the toolbar as well.
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