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Collapse OS – bootstrap post-collapse technology
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It's not a product designed to support large numbers of web visitors, given its goals, your statement that it is trash shows that you might not understand what its creator was going for - it's quirky and weird, but it's very clear and adheres to the project’s intended goals.
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I love the project too, but even if we’re at peak oil (demand) there are still dozens of unexplored or barely touched shale basins around the world. Peak gas is a long way off. And oil & gas infrastructure doesn’t just “rot away” in a year or two due to a pandemic, or it would have already rotted due to the periodic busts that crash the rig count just as much. It’s interesting how people’s reasons for the impending d…
It's tricky though, right, because these sorts of societal collapses do happen! We've seen them many times throughout history. I think the pure numbers indicate that the next one probably won't happen in my lifetime (good), but I do think it will happen! What makes us think our society is special?
> What makes us think our society is special?
What is “our society”? A particular country or group of countries, or global society?
Certainly any country or even group of countries could go downhill. But, historically, usually when one country is in decline, somewhere else on the globe another is rising. For global society as a whole to collapse, across all countries and continents - that would be something that has never happened before. I don’t even know if we can put a probability on it - how do you determine the probability of something happening if it has never happened before?
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#24I like it. It's like having a small fire extinguisher in your kitchen. Hopefully you'll never need it. Most likely you wont. But if you ever do, you'll be glad it's there.
Are there any other projects out there like this?
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#26I like the honesty on https://collapseos.org/civ.html but I get a very John Titor vibe from the author- To be honest if we have the collapse he envisions I think most people would be too worried about food to care about bootstrapping something on random hardware. However cyberpunk or fallout cool the idea is... still, was a fun read.
Just looked up John Titor on Wikipedia:
John Titor is a name used on several bulletin boards during 2000 and 2001 by a poster claiming to be an American military time traveler from 2036. Titor made numerous vague and specific predictions regarding calamitous events in 2004 and beyond, including a nuclear war, none of which came true. Subsequent closer examination of Titor's assertions provoked widespread skepticism. Inconsistencies in his explanations, the uniform inaccuracy of his predictions, and a private investigator's findings all led to the general impression that the entire episode was an elaborate hoax.
Sounds more than a bit like QAnon, at least in design if not reach or effect.
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It's tricky though, right, because these sorts of societal collapses do happen! We've seen them many times throughout history. I think the pure numbers indicate that the next one probably won't happen in my lifetime (good), but I do think it will happen! What makes us think our society is special?
> What makes us think our society is special? What is “our society”? A particular country or group of countries, or global society? Certainly any country or even group of countries could go downhill. But, historically, usually when one country is in decline, somewhere else on the globe another is rising. For global society as a whole to collapse, across all countries and continents - that would be something that has…
Everything is very tightly connected now. Products and food are produced very far away and does an impressive bit of traveling during assembly. It's a supper efficient approach but not very robust. It is hard to get an idea of the knowledge hidden/locked in proprietary property but one can expect it to be truly advanced. It would take decades to replicate for other companies.
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#28Feels a bit like something of becoming. A new successor to ham radio for the tech and internet. Love the idea.
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#29In any plausible doomsday scenario, would scavenged Z80s (with compatible displays and input devices) really be more readily available than old Intel-based laptops, or even Raspberry Pis?
And if your post-collapse computer can’t read PDFs or play videos, how much useful preserved information can you really access?
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#30CollapseOS provides the computation substrate, but is anyone thinking about the kind of computations post apocalyptic communities / individuals might be needing to run? I imagine things like ledgers, basic simulations, farming yield prediction... I couldn't find design documents besides the technical constraints it is willing to be compatible with.
We will need to calculate ballistics tables for our trebuchets in order to lay siege to neighboring towns.