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DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

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Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

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post #2

Not all heroes wear capes. They just make phone calls.

Why are you praising someone with too much time on their hands attempting to limit freedom of speech? Really sad and pathetic.

Ah yes, freedom[0] of speech[1].

0: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200630/23525844821/parle...

1: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200627/23551144803/as-pr...

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#22
post #9

The real story here I think is how LACNIC handled this. Who in their right mind will do infrastructural internet business in Latin America going forward if some self-righteous American man can cause them to revoke IP:s assigned to your company? There is no indication that this Russian internet provider - who claim they are operating in Belize - had a say in the revocation of this IP space. Looking at the website of D…

If you don’t want your IPs revoked, maybe you should follow the local laws and regulations that govern keeping those IPs? Just a thought.

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#23
post #9

The real story here I think is how LACNIC handled this. Who in their right mind will do infrastructural internet business in Latin America going forward if some self-righteous American man can cause them to revoke IP:s assigned to your company? There is no indication that this Russian internet provider - who claim they are operating in Belize - had a say in the revocation of this IP space. Looking at the website of D…

It’s interesting to see the kinds of mental gymnastics these threads attract from folks seeking to defend their favourite nazi site.

LACNIC really fucked up by enforcing their rules that require you to actually be doing business in Latin America, how horrible!

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#24
post #2

Not all heroes wear capes. They just make phone calls.

Why are you praising someone with too much time on their hands attempting to limit freedom of speech? Really sad and pathetic.

Dangerous speech isn't free.

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#25
post #9

The real story here I think is how LACNIC handled this. Who in their right mind will do infrastructural internet business in Latin America going forward if some self-righteous American man can cause them to revoke IP:s assigned to your company? There is no indication that this Russian internet provider - who claim they are operating in Belize - had a say in the revocation of this IP space. Looking at the website of D…

LACNIC did their own investigation and found out they didn't have any physical presence in Belize.

> However, none of the company’s employees are listed as based in Belize, and DDoS-Guard makes no mention of the Latin American region in its map of global operations.

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#26
post #9

The real story here I think is how LACNIC handled this. Who in their right mind will do infrastructural internet business in Latin America going forward if some self-righteous American man can cause them to revoke IP:s assigned to your company? There is no indication that this Russian internet provider - who claim they are operating in Belize - had a say in the revocation of this IP space. Looking at the website of D…

It seems pretty cut and dry; DDoS-Guard would need a physical presence there to operate, they didn't, so the IPs were revoked. The phone call was simply a tip to investigate.

Not quite.

> DDoS-Guard CEO Evgeniy Marchenko maintains the company has done nothing wrong, and that DDoS-Guard does indeed have a presence in Belize.

So they acted without any investigation because "uh oh, here comes the mob".

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#27

> The pending disruption for DDoS-Guard and Parler comes compliments of Ron Guilmette, a researcher who has made it something of a personal mission to de-platform conspiracy theorist and far-right groups. While this may solve immediate problems (such as the planning of unlawful or otherwise socially harmful events), we should consider the long-term impacts of de-platforming. Does censorship, even if justified, fuel a…

> Is it possible to bring fringe groups back into the fold of peaceful civil discourse

It's not really "fringe" groups that are the issue here; it's "extreme" groups - no-one is calling for the flat earthers to be deplatformed, for example.

> Does censorship, even if justified, fuel anger and distrust

Probably but I'd guess only among the people who are already inclined that way already.

> the population must always have their speech regulated

If you put "some of" after "have", it's the situation we already have.

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#28

Imagine making it your life's goal to destroy other people's legal product because you don't like how a small group of others are using it. The technologists of our society have so much potential to work on important tasks for humanity that far outweigh one person trying to make his own social media site.

> “It appeared to me that it was more probable than not that they got these 8,000+ IPv4 addresses by simply creating an arguably fraudulent shell company in Belize and then going cap in hand to LACNIC, claiming that they had a real presence in the Latin & South American region, and then asking for 8,000+ IPv4 addresses,” he said. “So I reported my suspicions to the LACNIC authorities in early November, and as I have only just recently learned, the LACNIC authorities followed up diligently on my report and, it seems, verified my suspicions.”

> In a detailed report released today (PDF), AFRNIC said its investigation revealed more than 2.3 million IPv4 addresses were “without any lawful authority, misappropriated from AFRINIC’s pool of resources and attributed to organizations without any justification.”

I'm not sure this qualifies as a "legal product". Seems to be lacking legality.

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#29
post #9

The real story here I think is how LACNIC handled this. Who in their right mind will do infrastructural internet business in Latin America going forward if some self-righteous American man can cause them to revoke IP:s assigned to your company? There is no indication that this Russian internet provider - who claim they are operating in Belize - had a say in the revocation of this IP space. Looking at the website of D…

Presumably any company actually following the rules and having a physical presence in SA would still be happy to do business in SA? If you don't have a physical presence there, you shouldn't trust LACNIC to keep your IP assignments, but that's a feature.

Re: DDoS-Guard to forfeit internet space occupied by Parler

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you praising someone with too much time on their hands attempting to limit freedom of speech? Really sad and pathetic.

Dangerous speech isn't free.

I'm well aware of what speech is and is not legal under US law. Parler's TOS are inline with US law.
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