I’m not claiming the situation is just or should be ignored, but the option the author seems to be ignoring is to launch without Widevine. Sure, a lot won’t work, but a lot will. Having a vocal community can add a lot of pressure.
I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
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Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#22https://security.googleblog.com/2019/04/better-protection-ag...
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#23Why aren’t there more browsers? Is it just a matter of all the IP tied up by the majors?
If we're talking about creating a browser from scratch, it's nearly impossible to implement one without a huge investment of both time and money. Browsers are unbelievably complex, and the new features are being added at such a pace that you need to run twice as fast just to keep up. If we're talking about forking an existing browser, that is doable. But you still need a huge investment to understand, change and exte…
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#24Why aren’t there more browsers? Is it just a matter of all the IP tied up by the majors?
Too many standards to follow, too many APIs, too complicated. Sometimes I wonder if the web standards aren't designed specifically to prevent any meaningful competition.
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#25Why aren’t there more browsers? Is it just a matter of all the IP tied up by the majors?
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#26Why aren’t there more browsers? Is it just a matter of all the IP tied up by the majors?
It's trivial to create a browser that's just a Chromium fork. It's nearly impossible to create one that isn't. Firefox (and Tor) is basically the only one. https://alternativeto.net/software/google-chrome/
The ecosystem is the big issue for a lot of these products. It why Microsoft's Windows phone failed so badly - they didn't have the app store to compete with or allow users to migrate to their platform without losing a lot of apps they already used on Apple or Android.
The ecosystem is a major reason why you don't see more competition.
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#27I’m not claiming the situation is just or should be ignored, but the option the author seems to be ignoring is to launch without Widevine. Sure, a lot won’t work, but a lot will. Having a vocal community can add a lot of pressure.
Basically the dev wanted to take Electron (a wrapper of Chromium/v8, the Google maintained FOSS browser engine) + Google's Widevine, smash them together with some glue code and a special-purpose UI, and call it a "broswer".
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too many standards to follow, too many APIs, too complicated. Sometimes I wonder if the web standards aren't designed specifically to prevent any meaningful competition.
Web standards are designed for cooperation not competition.
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#29I’m not claiming the situation is just or should be ignored, but the option the author seems to be ignoring is to launch without Widevine. Sure, a lot won’t work, but a lot will. Having a vocal community can add a lot of pressure.
They could also reverse engineer the Widevine module binary and reimplement it in their own project. You don't really need Google for this.
Re: I tried creating a web browser and Google blocked me (2019)
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too many standards to follow, too many APIs, too complicated. Sometimes I wonder if the web standards aren't designed specifically to prevent any meaningful competition.
Web standards are designed for cooperation not competition.