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Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is difference. King wanted the value of money stay stable or increase. Fed wants to reach 2% average inflation target but it keeps failing.

Can someone ELI5 why we want inflation?

That is a very interesting question that I have never seen a satisfactory answer to. I suspect there is some broad-based misinterpretation of the Paradox of Thrift [0].

If everyone has enough that they don't need to work any more, then the economy will start signalling to people to stop producing resources because they aren't needed (by lowering prices and reducing production). Rather than making the obvious connection that most people have what they need and lower prices will free up resources for people with very limited means, the mainstream thought seems to list towards savings & retirement being an adversary that must be defeated because the GDP might drop.

Basically if people stop working because they don't have anything they want to work for, economic output will drop in a way that can only be described as good. My interpretation is economists & government aren't ready for that idea so have declared an ongoing war against retirement (and - by extension - savings).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_thrift

Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the angles that I haven't seen discussed yet is that an increase in the money supply is a reasonable response to a significant decrease in the velocity of money. With stores closed, services shuttered and experiences unavailable, people are holding onto money longer, and it's changing hands less. If money is changing hands less (lower velocity) you need more money in the system to enable the same amount of com…

"the fed could reduce the money supply" What is your proposed mechanism for this? On the other hand, inflation is great for shafting the labor class, so at least we're going to put most of the pain on the people who are least capable of retaliating against the government; and they'll blame the rich anyways.

I believe the idea is to raise interest rates so people will hoard more money reducing the supply in circulation.

Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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Kings used to coin money, hand it out to the army and then collect taxes from the entire population that was paid in the same coin. The Fed creates dollars, hands it out to bankers and then the US gov't collects taxes from the entire population in the same dollars. Same strategy, different masters.

There is difference. King wanted the value of money stay stable or increase. Fed wants to reach 2% average inflation target but it keeps failing.

Why has it been so difficult for the Fed to increase inflation? Couldn't it have just printed more money?

Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is difference. King wanted the value of money stay stable or increase. Fed wants to reach 2% average inflation target but it keeps failing.

Can someone ELI5 why we want inflation?

We don’t want it. It is a byproduct of our debt-based fiat money with interest. There’s much more debt than money.

Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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Remember that an increase in M1 doesn't mean "more money for everyone"! It just means more reserves for banks.

I think the key thing here is to look at is increase of bank deposits (I.e. money for you and me). That is M2 MINUS central bank reserves and notes and coins in circulation. If you look at this you'll see that bank deposits have only increased modestly despite the large increase in M1. From this you can infer that the FED's "money printing" isn't really affecting Main Street very much. I.e. currently not causing much inflation.

What's happening? The FED is creating new reserves and using those to buy bonds. The reserves remain in financial institutions and should incentivise banks to lend - or at least that is the theory. Lending is how bank deposits (money for you and me) are created. The reserves which the FED creates to buy bonds (which are assets of commercial banks) doesn't end up in people's Bank accounts (which are liabilities of commercial banks). Instead, the reserves remain sloshing around in the banks.

My view is that money supply is endogenous. That is, new bank deposits are created when new loans are made. Currently, there is not a demand for loans so there won't be a huge increase in the M2 money supply as a result of these FED bond purchases. Perhaps demand might increase in the future, in which case the US will see inflation. I suspect once the economy recovers and inflation (as measured by the FED) increases then they'll start performing open market operations to sell the bonds they bought and thus remove the excess reserves from the financial system.

Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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post #23
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is difference. King wanted the value of money stay stable or increase. Fed wants to reach 2% average inflation target but it keeps failing.

Why has it been so difficult for the Fed to increase inflation? Couldn't it have just printed more money?

Not an expert, but imho this is because the money they are creating is not trickling down to the hands of consumers (hence low consumer inflation). OTOH we are seeing significant asset price inflation (stocks, housing, startup valuations, etc), which is a signal of where the created money is actually flowing. By now, I don’t think this ought to be a radical insight.

Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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Remember that an increase in M1 doesn't mean "more money for everyone"! It just means more reserves for banks. I think the key thing here is to look at is increase of bank deposits (I.e. money for you and me). That is M2 MINUS central bank reserves and notes and coins in circulation. If you look at this you'll see that bank deposits have only increased modestly despite the large increase in M1. From this you can infe…

Doesn't M1 exclude bank reserves?

Edit: Indeed. M1's definition: "M1 includes funds that are readily accessible for spending. M1 consists of: (1) currency outside the U.S. Treasury, Federal Reserve Banks, and the vaults of depository institutions; (2) traveler's checks of nonbank issuers; (3) demand deposits; and (4) other checkable deposits (OCDs), which consist primarily of negotiable order of withdrawal (NOW) accounts at depository institutions and credit union share draft accounts. Seasonally adjusted M1 is calculated by summing currency, traveler's checks, demand deposits, and OCDs, each seasonally adjusted separately.

I agree with this line of argument for the 2008 era quantitative easing! But my read is that M1 explicitly excludes bank reserves, so the M1 created can't be locked-up reserves, right?

Re: Money Creation: 70% in the Last 12mo (Fed, M1, $)

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is difference. King wanted the value of money stay stable or increase. Fed wants to reach 2% average inflation target but it keeps failing.

Can someone ELI5 why we want inflation?

most of the money in circulation is actually debt, or promises to pay for things like cars, phones, or anything you take out in credit. Since most of the world's money supply is debt between individuals and corporations, their needs to be a healthy supply of credit. The credit supply must exceed the demand from debt - so to speak. Inflation generally means there is more credit available in the system.
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