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Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

I am a designer and my opinion is that they’re micro optimizing with A/B testing to such a degree that they miss other significantly different paths that would be better overall.

Re: Google Images Restored

#22
Nice! The current image search is still a great product, with some filters, especially with the "find by image" stuff - this takes it to another level.

Can't fathom how Getty was able to make them remove the "view image" button. Thanks copyright.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is data driven and AB tests the hell out of their features, so I would assume these changes make them money somehow. Your personal preferences or anyone else's is merely a very small data point in their design process.

Yes, companies are profit-driven always. Not customer-satisfaction driven, unless that's what will bring them the most profit (especially true for newer, smaller companies). This makes me wonder if there is some structure similar to a corporation which would maximise something besides profit, without either being out-competed by a corporation or turning into one.

Competition ("out-compete") implies competition on some metric such as profitability. So, if that's the metric, then they'll be profit-driven. Of course, profitability can be optimized for over different time horizons--even if speculatively. For public companies, time horizons tend to be relatively short, or at least quarter-to-quarter profitability is important.

A private company, however structured, can define out-competing however its owners want to so long as it can pay its bills and employees.

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Really missed that view image button especially for Pinterest images that are pure spam

That button was removed in response to a lawsuit from Getty: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/internet-rages-after...

Would love to see somebody make an image search site that lets you filter all that stuff out. It would be fine with me as a user if it respected no-hotlinking policies too. But the filter could just omit paywalled / registrationwalled sites and those that do trickery like obnoxious watermarks or showing one image to the search crawler and another one to site visitors.

I have nothing against sites trying to make money. But sometimes I want to see just the stuff that is straight out there and isn’t wrapped up in dark patterns.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Getty? They spend a lot of money to take pictures, and other people pay money to use them. How would you change their business model? EDIT: I hadn't realized that Getty is the reason for the removal of the view image button! I stand by my comment in general, however I do think removing that button is crappy.

Getty charges $1000 for public domain photos. Fuck 'em! EDIT: They also fraudulently claim to own public domain photos and legally threaten people who use them, demanding payment.

I don't understand your point. If you hate copyright and IP, then you inherently also have to believe Getty should be allowed to take public domain photos (or someone else's photos) and sell them.

Re: Google Images Restored

#27
post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

I am a designer and my opinion is that they’re micro optimizing with A/B testing to such a degree that they miss other significantly different paths that would be better overall.

It really does seem a local/global maxima problem with the way they're trying to improve. I think they've been locking themselves into the local maxima, and at their scale it's probably really hard to expand the search beyond what's 'safe and known.'

Re: Google Images Restored

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Just use the Yandex image search.

Yandex hasn't yet removed or crippled its face recognition-enhanced image similarity search capability like Google and Bing did (probably because women complained that it turned up their old nudes/ludes), and Yandex doesn't exhibit bizarre racial biases like this:

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/76372135/

Sad that Americans have to use a Russian search engine to get away from Google/Bing censorship, bias, and politicization.

Re: Google Images Restored

#29
post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

The main changes this extension addresses were made because of a settlement with Getty Images.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/internet-rages-after...

Re: Google Images Restored

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post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

They’re in good company though. UI/UX in general is going to hell. Not just in $big_corp, but nearly everywhere.

I think that’s mainly because we have UI/UX as a dedicated function now. It’s a job that seems to attract people that don’t know how software _works_. This results in “uncanny” UX that looks similar enough but just doesn’t work the way it should.

Maybe I’m just getting old though!

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