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Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by Maxious »

em10fan wrote: post #18
antihero wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people put their phone in their "upper pockets"? Or even have "upper pockets"?

Many men? If you are wearing a suit, a smartphone makes the trouser pockets bulge a lot, so it's common to keep it in your shirt pocket or jacket inside pocket - Both of which is next to your heart.

The FDA [1] advises "don’t carry the phone in a shirt or jacket pocket directly over the pacemaker." as well as the American Heart Association [2] "Avoid keeping your cell phone in your front chest pocket."

1: https://www.fda.gov/radiation-emitting-products/cell-phones/... 2: https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/arrhythmia/prevention...

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by Jap2-0 »

antihero wrote: post #12
mrkwse wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't tend to hug their hobs though...

How many people put their phone in their "upper pockets"? Or even have "upper pockets"?

My grandfather always does.

He doesn't have a pacemaker, but it may not be as unreasonable of a thing as you might assume.

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by kgermino »

ddtaylor wrote: post #17

Does anyone know if magsafe is still patented? I checked many many years ago and it was, which was why I couldn't find other vendors offering it, but has that patent somehow last over 20 years?

This is MagSafe on iPhone, a completely unrelated product that happens to have the same name as the old laptop power connectors.

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by foepys »

Maxious wrote: post #21
em10fan wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many men? If you are wearing a suit, a smartphone makes the trouser pockets bulge a lot, so it's common to keep it in your shirt pocket or jacket inside pocket - Both of which is next to your heart.

The FDA [1] advises "don’t carry the phone in a shirt or jacket pocket directly over the pacemaker." as well as the American Heart Association [2] "Avoid keeping your cell phone in your front chest pocket." 1: https://www.fda.gov/radiation-emitting-products/cell-phones/... 2: https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/arrhythmia/prevention...

They can advise as much as they want, people just do it anyways.

Same with smoking, drinking, taking drugs, etc.

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by raverbashing »

elric wrote: post #2

It's worth noting that almost anything with a magnetic field can interfere with a pacemaker, for instance induction hobs. Given the pervasiveness of, well, magnets (!), it's probably worth investing in pacemaker research which takes this into account ...

Or, you know, a fridge magnet when carried on a pocket

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by loceng »

thih9 wrote: post #5

At the moment Apple support site states that: > Though all iPhone 12 models contain more magnets than prior iPhone models, they’re not expected to pose a greater risk of magnetic interference to medical devices than prior iPhone models. https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/important-safety-info... It would be interesting to verify this, i.e. compare the risk of interference for iPhone 11 and iPhone 12.

If they're checking for it with all products, you think they'd notice. Is that a standard test for all electronics though, to see if they'd interfere with pace makers?
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