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Re: Eclipse Orion

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Post by nl » Mon, May 23, 2011, 11:03 AM UTC

jasonkester wrote: post #13

Nice that they're trying, but it doesn't do even the basic stuff that the last crop of in-browser IDEs did. - open the page - click to the end of line 15 (inside the try, before the return) - hit ENTER Expected: caret goes to the same indent level as previous line Actual: caret goes to position zero - type "obj" - hit CTRL+SPACE Expected: At least be able to autocomplete symbols from the previous line. Actual: Render…

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion/Getting_Started_with_Orion#CSS... shows autocomplete working (for CSS).

I'm not sure why it isn't turned on for the demo though.

Re: Eclipse Orion

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Post by Wickk » Mon, May 23, 2011, 11:08 AM UTC

Flenser wrote: post #18

civild wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you not just remote desktop to your development machine where you have your entire working environment available anyway?

Because there was a power cut and your development machine isn't online, or the cleaner pulled the plug on it or maybe the sysadmins decided to change the network settings over the holidays.

The fact that you're making stretches to this situation to stress it's usefulness is not helping anything at all.

Re: Eclipse Orion

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Post by hmottestad » Mon, May 23, 2011, 11:10 AM UTC

jasonkester wrote: post #13

Nice that they're trying, but it doesn't do even the basic stuff that the last crop of in-browser IDEs did. - open the page - click to the end of line 15 (inside the try, before the return) - hit ENTER Expected: caret goes to the same indent level as previous line Actual: caret goes to position zero - type "obj" - hit CTRL+SPACE Expected: At least be able to autocomplete symbols from the previous line. Actual: Render…

Yep. No "auto-tab" as such in Safari, Firefox or Chrome on mac. However the video does show that the feature is there. At the moment it's essentially ms notepad with highlighting. However I've always wanted a development environment in my browser...so keep up the good work :)

Re: Eclipse Orion

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Post by lazylland » Mon, May 23, 2011, 11:33 AM UTC

Wickk wrote: post #22

Flenser wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there was a power cut and your development machine isn't online, or the cleaner pulled the plug on it or maybe the sysadmins decided to change the network settings over the holidays.

The fact that you're making stretches to this situation to stress it's usefulness is not helping anything at all.

Keeping your development machine powered off over the holidays is not really a stretch. Why waste so much power ?

Re: Eclipse Orion

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Post by Wickk » Mon, May 23, 2011, 12:00 PM UTC

lazylland wrote: post #24

Wickk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that you're making stretches to this situation to stress it's usefulness is not helping anything at all.

Keeping your development machine powered off over the holidays is not really a stretch. Why waste so much power ?

>or the cleaner pulled the plug on it

Re: Eclipse Orion

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Post by Flenser » Mon, May 23, 2011, 12:25 PM UTC

fierarul wrote: post #9

Until they add Java support they shouldn't even be using the Eclipse name. I know Eclipse supports other languages, but essentially Eclipse is the biggest Java IDE so announcing this web editor but avoiding Java support feels like they just picked the most easy thing to show off. Syntax highlighting is easy. What I want is a Java editor with code completion, code folding and error highlighting/error stripe. Otherwise…

from the getting started guide:

Java syntax highlighting is also supported. However, we have not implemented any outlining or content assist. Since we are building an integrated web-based toolset, we felt it important to target first the web client languages such as JavaScript, CSS, and HTML, so we can attract members of the JS community to Eclipse. Since we are self hosting Orion development in Orion, we need the JS features first.

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion/Getting_Started_with_Orion#Jav...

Re: Eclipse Orion

#27

Post by Flenser » Mon, May 23, 2011, 12:29 PM UTC

Wickk wrote: post #22

Flenser wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there was a power cut and your development machine isn't online, or the cleaner pulled the plug on it or maybe the sysadmins decided to change the network settings over the holidays.

The fact that you're making stretches to this situation to stress it's usefulness is not helping anything at all.

I was replying to the previous comment, trying to say that you can't always guarantee that a remote machine will be available. There are more benefits than just having your development environment always available though, like not needing to install or set up anything when moving between machines, or being able to extend your development environment using the same language that you are developing in.

Re: Eclipse Orion

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Post by tmcw » Mon, May 23, 2011, 1:05 PM UTC

The name OrionHub makes me wish that open-source companies were more litigious, just so that we could have some variety in naming.

Re: Eclipse Orion

#29

Post by tvon » Mon, May 23, 2011, 1:17 PM UTC

SpiralLab wrote: post #12

Cloud9/Ace/SkyWriter/Whatever-it's-called-today seems like a much better implementation of this.

Maybe right now, but it's very early in the web-based IDE game to write anyone off.

Re: Eclipse Orion

#30

Post by mgrouchy » Mon, May 23, 2011, 1:30 PM UTC

Gah, looking at the sample code. Can't resize the text area(unless I missed something), having to scroll horizontally to read code is a pain in the ass. I'll take 80 character lines any day(I assume that don't do that in the java world?)