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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#21

It was never a fair expectation that Parler would be able to scale up moderation in 24 hours. So this was in effect a rigged deadline, somewhat analogous to a "Performance Improvement Plan".

An impossible deadline in other contexts can of course be designed to be impossible for petty reasons, but when the object in question is a runaway train, you can't really wait to pull the plug. You can only give them as long as possible, and must prioritize safety.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#23
Regardless of your political persuasion, you should be concerned about this.

Massive multinational corporations having this much power over our speech is not healthy.

If they can do this to a sitting President of the US, they can do it to every single one of us.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#24

It was never a fair expectation that Parler would be able to scale up moderation in 24 hours. So this was in effect a rigged deadline, somewhat analogous to a "Performance Improvement Plan".

> It was never a fair expectation that Parler would be able to scale up moderation in 24 hours.

Apple asked for a plan, not for an implementation.

From Apple's letter:

> In addition [to removing the death threat examples in the letter], you must respond to this message with detailed information about how you intend to moderate and filter this content from your app, and what you will do to improve moderation and content filtering your service for this kind of objectionable content going forward.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#26
The only actual alternative is if people start investing in open cellular platforms.

I fully support the right of companies to sell locked down hardware, we shouldn't be trying to over-regulate here. The right response to this situation is to compete with it using open hardware, which respects its users. It's insane to me that we have all tolerated companies dictating what kind of software we run on the hardware we buy from them.

It's time to fight back. Open Mobile Hardware now!

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#27

This seems very counter to the whole Net Neutrality movement. If my ISP starts blocking Tor, or charging extra to get to YouTube.

Nobody here cares about net neutrality or censorship because they all receive biweekly checks from their big tech employers

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#29
post #10

The only way they would've made this deadline would've been to delete all of their posts. I'm not upset in the slightest about them being gone, but I can kind of see the argument about how the app store is deciding how someone uses their phones here.

I disagree. Apple's response quotes Parler's language and suggests they are operating in bad faith and any moderation effort in the last 24 hours was a token gesture at best.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#30

It was never a fair expectation that Parler would be able to scale up moderation in 24 hours. So this was in effect a rigged deadline, somewhat analogous to a "Performance Improvement Plan".

A need for moderation was surely not a surprise.

Using a lack of moderation as your selling point and then being surprised by such a deadline when you intentionally host content that doesn't tally with the platform you're on seems short-sighted.

The intent is likely to not moderate - it'd kill the platform. It remains accessible by web. Does it need a native app?

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