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OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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Great project. It's funny that we are at a point where even keyboard apps are spying on your personal and private data. Crazy.

It's coming for the hardware keyboards as well. See comments in this thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/95f7lw/das_keyboard_...

Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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Yes, a keyboard app just should not allowed to have a network connection, but yeah, a thing to dream in 2021.

As an Android user, not developer, I wanted to ask how are permissions on Android these days. Is "internet access" permission just granted for any app by default without asking the user? There were initiatives (probably 3rd party) for more granular permissions, but I haven't noticed this becoming common. I vaguely remember that Android started asking for some individual permissions not upon installation, but only whe…

> Is "internet access" permission just granted for any app by default without asking the user?

IIRC it was changed because people complained that a lot of apps required that permission despite the functionality not needing it. E.g. calculator app or whatever. Turns out that you need this permission if you want to display ads. So Google just sided with the advertisers and removed the permission from the display. Generally, I believe that Google likes internet connected things because they as a company have better tools to capture online revenue streams vs offline ones.

Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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I use AnysoftKeyboard (on F-Droid) [1]. I's pretty good, but has issues with the French apostrophe, that's often used to combine words. It also has multiple keyboard layouts, of which "terminal" compares favorably to hacker's keyboard. I like that it is configurable, and has a lot of text editing tools when swiping space up. I admit I lost some typing speed when I switched from the alternatives, but I'm happier with…

I don't see any reason why someone would use OpenBoard over AnySoftKeyboard. It would of been nice if there was an explanation of what differentiated it. If someone just wanted a different looking keyboard they could just have created a new theme for AnySoftKeyboard.

AnySoftKeyboard also is the only open source keyboard for Android that has gesture typing. Which is something I grew to love from when I used Gboard.

Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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Is it better than Hacker's Keyboard? https://github.com/klausw/hackerskeyboard

It takes very little to be better than Hacker's Keyboard. For me suggestions are broken altogether, but if you randomly get them to work and type "Ecample" it will not suggest anything because there are no words with that prefix. It also doesn't look at the previous word to bias which are likely next words (either in general or combined with the characters already typed). It's the dumbest keyboard ever, which is very nice on virtual terminals (hence it being a hacker's keyboard and my having it installed), but it's not useful as a general purpose keyboard.

Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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Try AnySoftKeyboard. Works great and is FOSS.

In my experience, the predictions were atrocious and not very smart, at least in French. It also couldn't detect words that had personal pronouns or determiners with an apostrophe, I had to type the apostrophe manually which is a no-go for me. And it does not support having multiple languages at once which is incredibly inconvenient when you frequently have to switch between 4 languages when typing and when you often…

this. gboard is the only solution I've used that's decent at multilingual typing

it still gets confused when you mix languages but in general it's ok

Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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Does that mean that the "default" keyboard on Android does not respect my privacy? As in, what does it do? Should I be worried about entering username, passwords etc from my Android device?

The "default" keyboard differs from device to device. Most devices have a closed source keyboard either from Google (gboard) or from Microsoft (swiftkey). If I remember correctly, both send subsets of what you type to the mothership and pinky swear to only use it for product improvement and guard your data with their lives.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an Android user, not developer, I wanted to ask how are permissions on Android these days. Is "internet access" permission just granted for any app by default without asking the user? There were initiatives (probably 3rd party) for more granular permissions, but I haven't noticed this becoming common. I vaguely remember that Android started asking for some individual permissions not upon installation, but only whe…

> Is "internet access" permission just granted for any app by default without asking the user? IIRC it was changed because people complained that a lot of apps required that permission despite the functionality not needing it. E.g. calculator app or whatever. Turns out that you need this permission if you want to display ads. So Google just sided with the advertisers and removed the permission from the display. Gener…

Even if I hate ads and I think one should be able to ban them forever on their devices, Android could just add an "Internet access" permission that only counts for Internet access required outside the Ads API, so they would keep their ads and users could be a bit safer on the "this app is snooping my data" side.

Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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As a very long term iOS user, when I saw this headline my first reaction was why is keyboard privacy even a thing i've never even bothered changing the keyboard of iOS and would certainly be prompted for any suspicious activity like mic or camera and would instantly reject it if i ever installed one. But this is very complicated on Android. I once maintained an Android phone for my Dad and the permissions prompt on that are so overwhelming that it's very easy to get people into 'accepting all' and I feel like this is the idea behind the design by Google. One shouldn't be worried about a keyboard spying about you and should be as easy as flip of a switch in settings from not allowing it but it's a lot more complicated than that on Android.

Re: OpenBoard – FOSS Keyboard for Android which respects your privacy

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Does that mean that the "default" keyboard on Android does not respect my privacy? As in, what does it do? Should I be worried about entering username, passwords etc from my Android device?

"Default" may mean different things. A Samsung phone has a Samsung keyboard as the default keyboard, while a Pixel would have Gboard (I guess).

I assume they send every word you type to their servers, but I also assume it's encrypted in transport, so it would be somewhat safe?

It's a very very difficult struggle.

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