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Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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Like many virtuous science applications, curing disease, fighting child abuse, feeding the hungry, unless we start seeing either profitable business models around it or charitably funded research organizations that actually pay competitive salaries to attract and retain talent, this is all just aggrandizing. It’s usually pet projects of certain gurus or career researchers with extreme personalities and penchant for d…

It's a common pattern that people start donating to illness research as soon as they have enough money.

While there are taxes implications, once more immediate needs are met, saving yourself from death in the future becomes something worth investing into.

Not everyone is that selfish or conscious about their selfishness, but I would expect this to manifest as a trend - which seems to match reality

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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I find majority of anti-aging articles to be way too optimistic. Consider the following: We still cannot treat many well understood diseases, including tuberous sclerosis, allergies, asthma, etc. We don't know the exact cause of multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, type 2 diabetes, etc, despite studying those diseases for decades. We can't help you keep the color of your hair or regrow your missing teeth, despite…

I cured my asthma with Iodine and Magesium. Iodine also seems to help type II according to some doctors. Progress is slow, and I agree that most anti-aging results are over hyped.

We need automated and mainstream Vitamin and Mineral testing - without needing to go through the traditional healthcare system.

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As someone already totally on board with ending aging, I found this article not terribly helpful. My main questions are "what should I be doing right now to stop my own body from aging?" and "when will more stuff be available for me to do that is not currently?" The article didn't help much in this regard. As far as I can tell, there are a number of clinical trials I should watch to see if those drugs work in humans?…

Do you avoid sugar, fructose, calorie free sweeteners? Do you do strength training & cardio? Are you overweight? Is your waist to hip ratio ideal for your gender? Do you monitor your blood glucose? Get 8 hours of sleep consistently? Avoid stress? Do not live close to a highway / live in a place with high air quality? Get consistent screening for issues that your family has to catch them early? Get enough sunshine? Re…

Well, am I the only one who can think of a better future where you can do/not do all those bad/good things and still live a long, healthy life?

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Parabiosis (blood exchange), if it works, would seem to have a lot of societal implications around the question of where the good blood comes from. The most obvious implementation would be for old, rich people to pay for the blood of young poor people. That could conceivably work, but it's also more than a little dystopian. Some follow-up questions if this actually works are: how much blood are we talking about here?…

The other question is whether a young person loses any lifespan, by forcing their body to generate additional blood at a younger age, by being a blood donor. I suppose this could be tested experimentally by performing frequent phlebotomies on a mice and observing if it affects life span.

In fact this has recently been studied.

>https://sciencenordic.com/body-death-denmark/frequent-blood-...

> A new study concludes that regular blood donors are not at a greater risk of a premature death than those who rarely donate blood.

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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My estimated lifespan is probably close to 90 years, but very likely the last 15 to 20 will be marked by health issues of increasing difficulty. If the various modalities of life extension leave the shape of the healthy/sick profile but simply stretch it out another 30 years, I'm not sure I'd be happy about that. If it could simply remove sickness and I died healthy at 90, say of a massive stroke, that would be a gre…

This reminds me of "Why I Hope To Die At 75", https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-h... - do you agree with the reasons there?

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As someone already totally on board with ending aging, I found this article not terribly helpful. My main questions are "what should I be doing right now to stop my own body from aging?" and "when will more stuff be available for me to do that is not currently?" The article didn't help much in this regard. As far as I can tell, there are a number of clinical trials I should watch to see if those drugs work in humans?…

Do you avoid sugar, fructose, calorie free sweeteners? Do you do strength training & cardio? Are you overweight? Is your waist to hip ratio ideal for your gender? Do you monitor your blood glucose? Get 8 hours of sleep consistently? Avoid stress? Do not live close to a highway / live in a place with high air quality? Get consistent screening for issues that your family has to catch them early? Get enough sunshine? Re…

This is a great list. What is the truth about wine?

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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My estimated lifespan is probably close to 90 years, but very likely the last 15 to 20 will be marked by health issues of increasing difficulty. If the various modalities of life extension leave the shape of the healthy/sick profile but simply stretch it out another 30 years, I'm not sure I'd be happy about that. If it could simply remove sickness and I died healthy at 90, say of a massive stroke, that would be a gre…

Do you think voluntary euthanasia should be open to older people? And what’s the floor on that age? 75? 100?

I have always wondered why we stop people from quitting life. Free will and all that. It seems to be the most basic of all freedoms.

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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Kaya kalpa therapies are traditional for anti ageing and rejuvenation in Ayurveda. Of course, such packages are provided in spas these days. Obviously not practiced as in the texts.

Having said that, I have translated tamil and Sanskrit texts. I distinctly remember a verse that describes a preparation made with heavy metals ..I believe there was arsenic. And my fav ingredient there was Mercury. That would fix ani-ageing.

I always keep an open mind. One never knows. If only we knew what the ‘Soma’ creeper is and where it can be found..

Random google search result:

http://ayurveda-sedona.com/knowledge-center/anti-aging-rejuv...

[..] First of all, one is sequestered for about 90 days. The patient is to remain in a “Kuti” a specially built closed cottage or hut, where light does not enter. During those three months, they remain in the darkness, shielded from sunlight and outside visitors. There, they begin complete purification of the body through Pancha Karma detoxification techniques. Certain herbal pastes are rubbed onto the body to exfoliate, and than allowed to dry, drawing out toxins. Medicinal plants, leeches, sweating and vomiting therapies are used for further detoxification of every organ system. During this time, diet is very minimal, perhaps eating only once a day, or even fasting on liquids. Some yogis drank only warm cow’s milk, considered sacred by Hindu’s, during the whole process. Specialized salts were ingested to preserve the body.

After weeks of cleaning the body of all built up impurities, it is time to re-nourish tissues at the deepest levels. Abhyangha massages, mineral baths, shiro dhara, sacred essential oils and precious gems were used to anoint the body. At this time, the immune boosting rasayana herbs and fresh juices were administered. These tonics are full of antioxidants, fighting free radical damage. There are legends of rare, specialized rasyanas, such as the elusive “Soma” plant, found in the mountains of India. It is not quite clear where this creeper was exactly located, but apparently it was the secret ingredient necessary in the magical elixir of youth.

After their morning spa therapies, patients spent the majority of their time performing tapas, meditating, reciting mantras, and practicing yogic breath. This time of hibernation not only cleansed their physical body but transformed their subtle and emotional bodies as well. They release all stuck emotions, anger and grief. They clear karmas of past lives through inward reflection. They often had visions of God, bestowing blessings upon them, and filling them with light. Universal knowledge is revealed to them from the cosmos. They cultivate inner peace.

After the “Kuti-pravesika” (living in the dark cottage, sequestered for 90 days) the person emerges completely transformed. The old grey hair falls out and is replaced by black hair. Old teeth fell out, replaced by new teeth. Complexion becomes fair, wrinkles smooth out and skin’s elasticity is restored. Eyesight and hearing drastically improve. Age related joint/body pain is gone. Memory and concentration is sharp, and there is spiritual clarity. The normal gross, dense vibrations of the physical body are sped up to a lighter, subtler frequency.[..]

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