I have no idea how this dictatorship is even considered for EU membership. Can someone explain this to me?
It's not. At the moment all talks about its membership are frozen due to its more and more autocratic rule.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, because the EU's refugee deal with Turkey is paramount. Without it there are more refugees in Germany (and other "core" EU countries), and the tense political atmosphere tips over.
Why aren't neighboring countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Ethiopia, etc. taking in 100% of the refugees? Can someone shed some light about refugee situation around NATO/EU? While humanitarian aspects must be taken care of, I only see refugee situation in Germany as a negative thing. It brings nothing to the country, and in fact brings other nonsense such as religious fundamentalism. These people are not going to…
> Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran
They don't want to, and disregard the human rights of large numbers of people already in the country.
> Ethiopia
Can't afford to.
There is no solution without ending the war, and there's no solution to that without addressing the forces keeping it going. It's like many of the Cold War conflicts, a proxy for wars not being fought with Russia.
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#23I have no idea how this dictatorship is even considered for EU membership. Can someone explain this to me?
When they were first seriously considering it, it wasn’t a dictatorship; things went seriously downhill in the past several years since then.
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#24Really looking forward to see how the EU respond here with Turkey vs, say, China or Google or FB. It's just interesting to me how values change depending on whom you're talking to.
It's telling that only an outgoing US administration decided to -weakly- sanction Turkey over the Russian missile fiasco. The European Union looks more and more like a banking cartel than a federation of nation states. Germany and Spain, that vehemently opposed sanctions in the last eurogroup, are doing good business selling weapons to Turkey. Weapons, that are then used by Turkey to openly threaten Greece and Cyprus…
Is there any country that makes weapons that doesn't sell them for a hefty profit? Hell, in the past decade the Americans have funded the death of their own troops by selling rocket launchers and bombs to the Saudis that are resold/handed out and used in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I recommend the 1980's "Deal of the Century" with Chevy Chase and Gregory Hines. It's a black comedy about the insanity of countries selling weapons to their own enemies.
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#25I have no idea how this dictatorship is even considered for EU membership. Can someone explain this to me?
That EU membership was never serious
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#26I have no idea how this dictatorship is even considered for EU membership. Can someone explain this to me?
They applied in 1999. They were told what criteria to meet. They have not yet met them. This includes freedom and rule of law criteria.
EU accession is not going to happen until Turkey is more like a normal European country.
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#28After spending the last year reading about constant warmongering and provocations against my country, with military units on combat alert even on holidays, I only have to say democracy should be reinstated in Turkey and I hope the circumstances can not detriment the friendship and common heritage of Turkish and Greek people.
> common heritage of Turkish and Greek people.
What common heritage are you speaking of?
Edit: Who knew such benign question would trigger so many. I guess foreigners have a different understanding of what heritage means. Heritage doesn't mean being conquered and/or exchanging words, food, building, etc. Heritage implies "descent". Just because you eat sushi doesn't mean you and a japanese person have a common heritage. Just because native american buildings like the hogan are in the US doesn't mean we share the same common heritage as native americans.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/native-american-houses-fact...
We specifically say they are native american homes, not "american" homes because even though the natives were conquered, their heritage is different from ours.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why aren't neighboring countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Ethiopia, etc. taking in 100% of the refugees? Can someone shed some light about refugee situation around NATO/EU? While humanitarian aspects must be taken care of, I only see refugee situation in Germany as a negative thing. It brings nothing to the country, and in fact brings other nonsense such as religious fundamentalism. These people are not going to…
> Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran They don't want to, and disregard the human rights of large numbers of people already in the country. > Ethiopia Can't afford to. There is no solution without ending the war, and there's no solution to that without addressing the forces keeping it going. It's like many of the Cold War conflicts, a proxy for wars not being fought with Russia.
> They don't want to
Any idea why?
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#30After spending the last year reading about constant warmongering and provocations against my country, with military units on combat alert even on holidays, I only have to say democracy should be reinstated in Turkey and I hope the circumstances can not detriment the friendship and common heritage of Turkish and Greek people.
I appreciate you saying that. I am from the Balkans but from neither of these two countries and I was wondering whether you would say most of the people around you share your view . It is heartwarming to see humanist messages like yours, but I have the impression that much bigger part of the Balkans expresses more jingoistic nationalistic and xenophobic views.
Balkans are a war torn region, I honestly don't share some of my compatriots, idiotic opinions about naming other countries. Although they haven't lived though let's say Sarajevo in the 90s, I hope we all realize, that war isn't the solution to disputes. To answer your question, I try to surround my self with educated people, not dogmatic morons.