Apple will just claim its suppliers fault. That is why companies outsource everything. That way there is plausible deniability.
Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China
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#22iPhone suppliers workers supposedly. Maybe we should also talk about the prison labor complex in the US as well then and the 13th Amendment: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/22/us/california-wildfires-p... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_Stat... https://www.motherjones…
Why not write a single article to say there is injustice in the world and that we should fix it?
By bringing those other topics to the discussion any effect is diluted. Feel free to bring it on its own merits, separately.
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#23"forced labor" It's slavery...modern day slavery. Why are we mincing words? We stand on our soap boxes and preach about historical injustices and how we need to repair them. Well here is your chance to prevent a future historical injustice, and all it takes is for you to take a stand, instead of quietly consuming the products and leaving it for future generations to atone for methods by which those products were prod…
> Apple spokesman Josh Rosenstock said the company has confirmed that Lens Technology has not received any labor transfers of Uighur workers from Xinjiang. He said Apple earlier this year ensured that none of its other suppliers are using Uighur labor transferred from Xinjiang. >“Apple has zero tolerance for forced labor,” Rosenstock said. “Looking for the presence of forced labor is part of every supplier assessment…
Zero tolerance apparently does not extend beyond the facilities Apple needs to make its goods. As in, they seem to turn a blind eye towards the country's behavior they are in as long as they can keep their own hands clean.
Simply put, Apple should be held accountable for simply doing manufacturing in a country which allows such abuse regardless if they or their suppliers actively use such labor.
Apple isn't alone in this behavior but they are beyond most when it comes to virtue signalling.
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#24I'm very envious of the Chinese for having a government that unapologetically puts the interests of their people over foreigners. Part of why this is so shocking to us Westerners is that it's such alien behaviour. We have become conditioned to expect foreigners are treated with extreme preference.
I suppose the Uyghurs in detention camps are not included in “their people” then?
Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China
#25iPhone suppliers workers supposedly. Maybe we should also talk about the prison labor complex in the US as well then and the 13th Amendment: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/22/us/california-wildfires-p... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_Stat... https://www.motherjones…
I guess the US voters have decided that they like forced prision labor in the US.
There is difference between voters choosing forced prison labor and voters given the choice between two parties and being intentionally misled and misinformed about what the parties are actually doing.
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#26I'm very envious of the Chinese for having a government that unapologetically puts the interests of their people over foreigners. Part of why this is so shocking to us Westerners is that it's such alien behaviour. We have become conditioned to expect foreigners are treated with extreme preference.
This comment is so disconnected from reality but I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or just pure propaganda...
Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China
#27iPhone suppliers workers supposedly. Maybe we should also talk about the prison labor complex in the US as well then and the 13th Amendment: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-11/californ... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/22/us/california-wildfires-p... https://www.freedomunited.org/news/forced-prison-labor-in-ca... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_Stat... https://www.motherjones…
Maybe we should talk about TFA and open other threads for unrelated topics.
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#28Can't Aplle produce them in India, Albania, Vietnam, Nepal, Kazakstan or another similar country where there is no consantration camp?
They (or their vendor) weren't paying employees in India.
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#29I hate how American (and European) companies will virtue signal with commercials and campaigns (Apple and Nike come to mind) toting their ESG credentials but then will be doing stuff like this. People fall for it and it really pisses me off. Welcome to marketing.
It’s also crazy to me that China isn’t facing more severe backlash for the treatment of the Uyghurs. It’s reprehensible and disgusting.
Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China
#30"forced labor" It's slavery...modern day slavery. Why are we mincing words? We stand on our soap boxes and preach about historical injustices and how we need to repair them. Well here is your chance to prevent a future historical injustice, and all it takes is for you to take a stand, instead of quietly consuming the products and leaving it for future generations to atone for methods by which those products were prod…
> Apple spokesman Josh Rosenstock said the company has confirmed that Lens Technology has not received any labor transfers of Uighur workers from Xinjiang. He said Apple earlier this year ensured that none of its other suppliers are using Uighur labor transferred from Xinjiang. >“Apple has zero tolerance for forced labor,” Rosenstock said. “Looking for the presence of forced labor is part of every supplier assessment…
Now post the next 3 paragraphs after those quotes.
Apple is actively doing business in a location where slavery is frequently occurring, while pretending that their audits are thorough and comprehensive so that their hands appear clean. But the fact that they are playing whack-a-mole with constant slavery reports should be evidence enough that they know exactly what they're doing: they're trying to turn a profit while turning a blind eye to abuses, so long as they don't happen too publicly, and don't directly implicate them. This is wrong.