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What If You Could Do It All Over?

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Re: What If You Could Do It All Over?

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah. Nope. A career where you can make money and move up over time is not low status. Try being a blue collar member of the working poor, or someone deep in debt from a useless degree working a dead end service job. Software is a very cushy job compared with what more than half this country has.

It's the lowest of the white collar jobs.

What's your line for "white collar"? There are lots of office desk jobs involving computers that are lower paid and lower status. Testers, help desk, data entry, administrative helpers etc.

It is true though that its easier to climb the ladder via social/soft/people skills and selling/positioning yourself well and knowing who to associate with etc. compared to working real hard on technical stuff. If you want to impress general people, tell them about people related achievements, like how you led a big group to success, or how you resolved conflicts, big names you've worked with and know etc. Social capital is indeed more valuable in general and so managers and "soft" professionals like lawyers can seem higher status. But its more about the focus on people vs things. Rule of thumb: if you can be objectively wrong or make an objective mistake, you're on the lower end of status. If situations are more wishy washy and rhetoric can save you, you are higher up.

Even though formulating it bluntly is frowned upon: as a software engineer you dominate (rule over) computers and equipment (similar to blue collar work), but to get respect from non techies you need to dominate people. No way around it. That's why managers like to have many reports, even if they are useless and hurt the bottom line.

Re: What If You Could Do It All Over?

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You can't, so don't bother thinking about it.

You can make changes today that will pay dividends in 10 years, so maybe focus on that instead.

I was widowed pretty young (as widowers go), so I have done my share of playing the what-if game with the past. Ultimately it is not a productive exercise, and I try not to do it. If I catch myself dwelling in unlived lives, I try to refocus on the one still in front of me.

Re: What If You Could Do It All Over?

#24
post #9

Definitely not be a software engineer. No one told me how incredibly low the social status is. EDIT: I guess it was suspicious that 99% of my high school circle picked law or finance or business courses instead.

Don't get a job based on how impressive it sounds when you tell people about it at parties. You will spend far more time doing the job than you will talking about it at parties.

Yeah but you'll take home way more dates at those parties.

Re: What If You Could Do It All Over?

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Definitely not be a software engineer. No one told me how incredibly low the social status is. EDIT: I guess it was suspicious that 99% of my high school circle picked law or finance or business courses instead.

You could try being a grad student in New Orleans. The James Earl Jones quote from Conan is apt here (my point being they will be thankful for what they have). If it makes them feel better I have to teach the 99% of their high school they are talking about and they all seem pretty one track minded.

Conan O'Brien or Conan the barbarian?

Re: What If You Could Do It All Over?

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post #5

“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: The last day you have on earth, the person you became will meet the person you could have become .”

This reminds me of David Goggins talking about how he wanted to "do better than God's chart."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fx1mGhTXdg

Re: What If You Could Do It All Over?

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Definitely not be a software engineer. No one told me how incredibly low the social status is. EDIT: I guess it was suspicious that 99% of my high school circle picked law or finance or business courses instead.

Are you Indian by any chance? I'm curious because - at least from Indian people I've seen and met - it (social status) seems to be hugely more important than what I see around me locally.

I do think about my literal social status (i.e. friends, sex, etc.) but I don't think thought along those lines has ever really influenced my decision making - beyond a vague desire to outdo people born better than me.

Re: What If You Could Do It All Over?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't get a job based on how impressive it sounds when you tell people about it at parties. You will spend far more time doing the job than you will talking about it at parties.

Yeah but you'll take home way more dates at those parties.

On the one hand it opens the door to (bluntly) "better" people, but equally will you have much in common?
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